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Offline Jeff1857

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WASHINGTON – President-elect Barack Obama says he will try to "reboot America's image" among the world's Muslims and will follow tradition by using his entire name — Barack Hussein Obama — in his swearing-in ceremony.

The U.S. image globally has taken a deep hit during President George W. Bush's two terms in office, primarily because of opposition to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, harsh interrogation of prisoners, the indefinite detention of terrorist suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and mistreatment of inmates at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

Obama promised during his campaign that one of his top priorities would be to work to repair America's reputation worldwide, and that one element of that effort would be a speech delivered in a Muslim capital.

He pledged anew to give such a speech, though he declined to say whether it would happen during his first year in office.

"It's something I intend to follow through on," Obama said in an interview published Wednesday in the Chicago Tribune and the Los Angeles Times. "We've got a unique opportunity to reboot America's image around the world and also in the Muslim world in particular. So we need to take advantage of that."

Obama said his message would be twofold: that his administration will be unyielding in stamping out terrorist extremism but also "unrelenting in our desire to create a relationship of mutual respect and partnership with countries."

"I think the world is ready for that message," he said in the interview, conducted Tuesday.

During the campaign, Obama repeatedly faced questions about whether he is a Muslim, particularly in whisper campaigns that noted his middle name, that his father is Kenyan, and that he lived for a time as a child in Indonesia. Obama is a practicing Christian.

Asked if he would drop his middle name during his inauguration on Jan. 20, the president-elect said he would not.

"The tradition is that they use all three names and I will follow the tradition, not trying to make a statement on way or another," he said.

Obama also talked about the spiritual support he sought during his White House bid, particularly since he and his family left Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ after inflammatory comments by its pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, became a campaign issue.

Obama said he set up a "sort of prayer circle across the country" of pastors who would pray for him every morning on a conference call. Obama said he sometimes joined the call, which involved leaders from various Christian denominations and other religious faiths.

"I'm not even sure that all of them voted for me," Obama said. "But they were willing to pray for me, and that's something that was wonderful."

On other topics:

_Obama would not put a timetable on issues important to organized labor, what he called his promise to "put an end to the kinds of barriers and roadblocks that are in the way of workers legitimately coming together in order to form a union and bargain collectively." Among other things, he has promised support for a card-check system for unions trying to organize a new workplace and for adding labor and environmental protections to the North American Free Trade Agreement. "I don't want to anticipate right now what sequences will be on these issues," Obama said.

_The man about to be the nation's first black president said he will make enforcing civil rights laws and making the criminal justice system color-blind top priorities for his administration. The Justice Department's Civil Rights Division "over the last eight years has had a lot of problems and really declining morale," he said.

_Obama said he, his wife Michelle and their two young daughters will make frequent visits during his presidency back to their home in Chicago, perhaps as often as every six weeks. "My Kennebunkport is on the South Side of Chicago," he said. "Our friends are here. Our family is here. And so we are going to try to come back here as often as possible."
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Here we go already. Bin Laden will be the White House for tea before it's over with.

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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2008, 09:16:57 AM »

Here we go already. Bin Laden will be the White House for tea before it's over with.



Come on man.  You know that's BS.  Obama was elected by the citizens of this country.  You might not like him personally, but he is gonna be your President.  I read a biography of Chester Nimitz recently.  Being a retired swabbie you are certainly familiar with the man.  He evidently had a daughter who could not stand FDR.  They were somewhere and FDR was coming by and his daughter stated that she was not going to stand up for FDR.  Nimitz looked at her and told her, you don't have to stand up for FDR, but you will stand up for the President of the United States.  Nimitz was a smart man and maybe there is a lesson in that for folks.

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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2008, 09:35:18 AM »
Presidential is as the president does. 

Bill Clinton dishonored his presidency by getting blown in the Oval Office by his bimbo.  No one seemed to care, because they re-elected him right in the middle of all that messy publicity.  And his smarmy statement "It all depends on what the definition of 'is' is." Still makes me furious with him.  He got away with perjury in his trial by fire.  I have been in court and seen people given more time to spend with months in jail for less perjury than he uttered to his questioners under oath.

Obama's Senate seat is for sale in Chicago by his cronies.  You think he is totally innocent of all that, with Tony Rezko being his bud and a bud of the governor's?  There is still a large question of the unnamed donors from overseas who contributed to the campaign funds he used to buy the presidency with.
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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2008, 09:43:46 AM »

Obama's Senate seat is for sale in Chicago by his cronies.  You think he is totally innocent of all that, with Tony Rezko being his bud and a bud of the governor's? 


Yes I do.  Do you have any evidence showing otherwise, or is your statement just conjecture?  Seems to me you are using guilt by association.  If we used "guilt by association" in this country to convict, who among us would not be in jail?

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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2008, 11:29:12 AM »

I think Obama is disingenuous with his supporters and the people of America.

#1.  Obama voted with McCain on the legislation to reform campaign finance.  When push came to shove, McCain was honorable and abided by the new rules he voted for.  Obama was DISHONORABLE, shunning the rules he voted in to reform campaign finance, electing instead to take untracable money for his campaign funding.  Obama was given untold millions from people overseas and in Muslim countries who openly said they were contributing to his campaign to get him elected.  Yet he still will not open his campaign funding for inspection.  THAT one thing, in and of itself speaks volumes as to his honesty and integrity.  Personally, I believe that he bought the Presidency of the United States with a good portion of  campaign funds from illegal funding sources.  He could clear all of this up by just opening up his files as McCain did and other presidents before him have, but he will not.  The only reason for secrecy is to keep from exposing his dishonesty.

#2.  And yes, guilt by association is a big factor in my thinking.  You look at the people he associated with on his way to the top of the political heap.  Tony Rezko, Gov Slobimgoingtoscrewallmyconstituentsover, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, and the others with shady, slimy pasts he associated with (got into bed with, more like) to get to the top.  Don't think he wasn't out there doing favors for them, just as they did favors for him, that he has to repay now he is president.

I for one respect the position of President.  I don't have to respect the man who was elected as president just because he attained the position.  Especially if I think he got there dishonestly.

Bush may have made some mistakes on his watch, but he tried to make a better world for my kids and grandkids to live in.  For the most part, I supported and still do support him and his efforts on our behalf.  But I have never heard a president so reviled by people and the media of the US as I have him. So no, I don't have to respect Obama or believe in him. 

I will wait to see if he EARNS MY RESPECT as the President of the United States.  Only then will I give it to him.  If Obama proves himself worthy of the office, he will have earned it.  Otherwise, I don't feel I owe him any more than the naysayers who reviled our current president gave him for the past 8 years.
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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2008, 11:35:00 AM »
A little too political for my taste.. 
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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2008, 12:05:29 PM »
Bush may have made some mistakes on his watch, but he tried to make a better world for my kids and grandkids to live in.  For the most part, I supported and still do support him and his efforts on our behalf.  But I have never heard a president so reviled by people and the media of the US as I have him. So no, I don't have to respect Obama or believe in him. 

I will wait to see if he EARNS MY RESPECT as the President of the United States.  Only then will I give it to him.  If Obama proves himself worthy of the office, he will have earned it.  Otherwise, I don't feel I owe him any more than the naysayers who reviled our current president gave him for the past 8 years.


I agree that Bush has been reviled probably more than any President since Clinton.  The reality is that Obama is next and will be reviled more.  It is the an unfortunate reality of the CNN, Bill O'Reilly, Keith Olberman, Rush Limbaugh, etc. world we live in.  He who says the nastiest thing last seems to think they won.

But I would also point out to you, that while others may have treated Bush that way, two wrongs, do not make a right.

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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2008, 12:39:05 PM »
Bush did not deserve the toasting he received from the left wing media.  Obama on the other hand, did not deserve the accolades he received from the left wing media.  Obama already has 2 feet on the presidency and support that Bush never got and really did deserve.

You speak badly of the Conservative comentators, but that is nothing compared to what the left wing media did to Bush for the past 8 years.  AND when Bush messed up, he received a tongue lashing as well from the conservative comentators you just mentioned.

And just for your edification, Lloyd, CNN has been solidly on the left side with Obama in everything.  I refuse to even listen to their station because of the terrible left slant on everything they portray in the news.

Fox News does present both sides of all issues.  I have listened to them long enough to know this and applaud their news programs.  I may not like some of the left leaning things they say, but they balance it with some conservative views too.

As to it being 2 wrongs don't make a right, I still reserve the right to see if Obama will be a good president before I give the man the same respect his office is due.  And I don't see that as wrong.
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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2008, 01:07:18 PM »
You speak badly of the Conservative comentators, but that is nothing compared to what the left wing media did to Bush for the past 8 years.  AND when Bush messed up, he received a tongue lashing as well from the conservative comentators you just mentioned.

And just for your edification, Lloyd, CNN has been solidly on the left side with Obama in everything.  I refuse to even listen to their station because of the terrible left slant on everything they portray in the news.



I think you misunderstood part of that.  I speak badly of conservatives and liberals.  I listed 2 conservatives, Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh, and two liberals, CNN and Keith Olberman.  I don't listen to any of them as I think all of them are bad for this country.  All take extremist views either left or right, which helps push/lead people towards the edges and away from center.  I am quite sure I could have listed many more liberals than conservatives because the media definetly has more liberals than conservatives.  But I limited it to two of each.  BTW Keith Olberman was EXCELLENT on ESPN's Sportscenter when teamed with Dan Patrick.  Alas, that was years ago.

You are correct that respect needs to be earned.  However, I believe that all of the unfounded and ludicrous negatives being said about Obama, such as the insinuation that he is a party to the selling of his Senate seat, and that there is something wrong with him using his full name at his inauguration, and that Bin Laden wil be having tea at the White House lead to an atmosphere which helps people find it easier to disrespect him for no reason whatsoever.  Everyone deserves a chance and it is to the benefit of this country that he be given the benefit of the doubt until such a time as he proves he is undeserving of it.  So far he has been given no chance by so many.  Yes, make him earn your respect, but don't put so many false obstacles in the path of him earning that respect that it becomes an impossible task.  Whether you/we like it or not, he is going to be our President for the next 4 years at least.  It is for the benefit of you, me, our children, our grandchildren, etc. that he is successful as President.  Give him a chance. 

FYI, I'm a pretty non-political person.  I identify as center of the road to slightly right of center.  I think extremist views, either left or right are hurtful and dangerous for this nation. 

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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2008, 02:48:28 PM »
I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh at all.  Have not since he left tv.  I don't listen to talk radio at all either.

I do occasionally listen to Bill O'Reilly on tv.  Obviously you do not.  If you did, you would know that he presents his opinion as he sees it, whether he is to the left or the right of a subject.  There have been times I agreed with him wholeheartedly and times I have disagreed with him wholeheartedly.  But I will tell you this, during the election process he was solidly telling people to give Obama a chance and defended him many times on his program.  So you do Bill a disservice when you knock him on this subject.

As to Keith Olberman, I have never listened to him and do not know where he stands, either right or left.  But I have listened to news on CNN and know they stand to the left and they knock Bush every chance they get, so I quit listening to their news.  I was sick of the crap they spew constantly.

And so far, I have not heard any news media say that Obama is part of selling his Senate seat.  Nor did I say that.  The Governor of Illinois, who IS A FRIEND OF OBAMA'S is the one who is selling it.  By the very definition of being one more of Obama's shady slimy friends, he has tarred Obama with the same brush of slime he slings around with the F word in the phone wire taps.

Again, I plan to give him a chance to show me he can do the job he bought with foreign money.  If he earns my respect in the future, I will let you know.  Otherwise, I am on a wait and see basis and will remain there until I know for sure which side of the coin I come down on with him.

And I am very political minded.  I didn't used to be, but during the Viet Nam war I learned that being political minded and learning the right choices to vote for, instead of going along to get along, may one day save the lives of my children and grandchildren.  Then I became interested, informed and very political minded, because our futures are at stake here.

To see the idiots out there exiting from the voting booths, telling the news media that they voted for him because he is black, because he is a democrat, because they thought it was time for a black man to be in office, because of stupid uninformed reasons, infuriates me.  They did not know the issues, or the reasons to vote or not vote for him.  Most of them voted the way they were told to vote, by the left liberal media. 

Well, in history classes, we old timers were taught that childrend of men get the government they deserve.  We just raised a  whole generation of ignorant children who were never taught that lesson and have been kept in ignorance by their education system, which failed them miserably. 

I don't care that Obama is black.  I don't care that he is a Democrat.  I do care that he be open, honest, above board with the American people who elected.  I do care that he be deserving of the office he was elected to serve.  I do care that he keep my country and my fellow citizens safe from the terrorist threats.  I just don't see that he has enough savvy to do it.

So respect reserved till he proves he his judgement and decision making on world event is worthy of my respect.
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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2008, 03:07:51 PM »
I think both Lloyd and GoB have good salient points.  I will give my utmost support to the new prez.  I will applaud his successes and razz his mess-ups.  I do reserve the right to hightail it to Mexico if the stuff gets too deep, though. :-*  I don't care if he calls himself Shirley, as long as he helps my country! :-X

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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2008, 03:15:13 PM »
Hm... I ask myself what is the effect of using his second name? I´m sorry, can someone explain this for me please? I see only one point and this is that he wants to show the muslim world that he, as a muslim (I know he isn´t a muslim),  achieved the presidency of the U.S.

Strange thing.  :-X

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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2008, 04:14:02 PM »
Hm... I ask myself what is the effect of using his second name? I´m sorry, can someone explain this for me please? I see only one point and this is that he wants to show the muslim world that he, as a muslim (I know he isn´t a muslim),  achieved the presidency of the U.S.

Strange thing.  :-X

Michael


It's not strange at all Michael.  It is a tradition in this country that Presidents are sworn in using their full names.

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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2008, 04:29:13 PM »
I voted a straight party line..Republican...that is all I have to say about this!!

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Re: Obama to "REBOOT" US Image Among World Muslims, Will Use His "Whole" Name
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2008, 04:35:44 PM »
Good for him!