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Peter

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A Totally 'British' Sentence.
« on: June 18, 2007, 03:44:59 PM »
Maybe you remember the case below, maybe not. But this is what happens in a non dp Country to a child killer.....  >:(

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HUNTLEY HUNGER STRIKE
EXCLUSIVE: Bored, depressed and missing his gay lover, Huntley refuses to eat
By Jeremy Armstrong 18/06/2007

BESOTTED Ian Huntley is threatening to starve himself to death in a bid to see more of his gay jailbird lover.

The self-obsessed Soham killer began a hunger strike last Tuesday - and says he is prepared to die unless his latest demands are met.

Huntley, 33, says he is fed-up with being kept on the "boring" medical wing at Wakefield prison.

Instead he wants to be moved to one of the main wings, where he can be nearer to gay killer Dean Wood, 29.

The pair have become close since Wood was jailed last year for killing casino boss Barry De Lacy in Leeds.

Huntley - serving a minimum of 40 years for the murders of 10-year-olds Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman - is under constant watch in his cell.

That means he cannot see Wood alone there. He has also been prevented from visiting Wood in his cell, and has had four requests to be switched from the medical centre refused.

A Home Office source confirmed: "He is saying he is on hunger strike and that he is serious this time. He has not had any food for five days now. Whether he can last remains to be seen."

It is Huntley's second hunger strike, and the latest in a series of attempts to take his own life.

He has tried to commit suicide three times, most recently in September last year by taking an overdose of antidepressants.

On that occasion he spent 19 hours in a coma.

Since announcing his latest hunger strike, he has spent most of his time in his cell, where he is having regular medical checks.

He told prison staff: "I have not eaten, and I will not. It is the only way you take notice of me, and listen to my views. I want to be able to see people in my cell, not just in the day room.

"I will keep on refusing meals until my regime changes."

Insiders at the jail say Huntley has become increasingly despondent over his minimum 40-year tariff and a warning from the Lord Chancellor earlier this year that he must die behind bars.

His records show him constantly complaining about his treatment, his room on the hospital wing, and his education classes.

They also reveal prison bosses going to amazing lengths to keep him happy.

He has been given a "cushy" job on the wing, stays up late at night watching TV, is allowed to sleep in until 9 am and has bought himself a new stereo.

But he is just three and a half years into his life term, and knows he will be 70 before he can apply for parole.

Huntley's "significant events, conversations and observations" are recorded. His typical regime over a 19-hour period, from 20 past midnight on May 29 to 7pm that evening is noted.

It reveals Huntley being allowed to sleep in late - with the cell door open when it is hot. They also record his excitement at the delivery of a new stereo to the medical wing.

The staff always refer to him as "Ian", and make entries on his general demeanour and behaviour every two hours.

But Huntley remains sullen and is described as being "quiet" and reluctant to mix with other inmates. He has even complained about his prison wages.

One entry says he started smoking again because he had "lots on his mind".

But many staff are unhappy at the favourable treatment Huntley receives. One said: "He's got the life of Riley in here."

Prisoner JG5778

HUNTLEY'S DAY:

24:20: Turned off his TV and looked to settle for the night in bed. No problems

06:30: Asleep. Many movements noted. No problems.

07.45: Officer Walton on duty. Fully briefed by Officer Smith.

08.00: Ian is sleeping but remains in bed, movement noted.

10.25: Ian got up in good spirits at 0900 hrs, he said he had a good night's sleep but informed me he had started smoking again as he has "lots on his mind"".

He spent half an hour talking with Will Smith about a TV programme on this morning. He was telling Ian, "she was talking about her life before she met you". To which Ian replied: "Yeah, she is a lying b****". He then phoned his sister and is now associating with Dean Wood.

10.35: Seen on chaplain's round, appears in good spirits.

12.00: Ian spent the remainder of the morning with Dean Wood. Spoken with him at regular intervals. No concerns. He did state if it became too warm again, he would refuse to lock up.

12.30: Lock up. Ian is sat watching TV.

14.00: Unlock. Ian is attending education this afternoon. Query regarding his wages from last week, Mr Sharrock (a governor) to sort this afternoon.

15.20: Spent first part of the education doing Sudoko, not interacting with the group. I had a chat with Ian at break. He said he found the education classes boring, with the ex-ception of cookery. He went on to tell me about the stereo he is expecting on Friday.

16.20: Locked up for roll-check - finished education. No problems to report.

17.15: Unlocked Ian at 16.45 to prepare the servery for tea. Had a 15 min talk with him.

He was saying he was bored in the health care and had put in four applications to move back to the main prison but he said the governor had told him he would be remaining in health care and moving to the middle landing when ready.

He also spoke about moving to A-wing last year, stating he was looking forward to the move but that it had been stopped and he did not know the reasons why.

19.00: No problems to report. Ian has interacted well with other prisoners, particularly Dean Wood and Will Smith. He has been polite at all times.

Source - Jeremy.Armstrong@Mirror.Co.Uk

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Well, the actual facts of his crime were never revealed to the general public. Still, Huntley WAS convicted of killing two young lasses. Is this justice???

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Re: A Totally 'British' Sentence.
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2007, 05:38:16 PM »
Kinda sounds like he stays in a Holiday Inn express.

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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2007, 08:06:07 PM »
More like the Hilton. He is one sorry excuse for a human being.
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2007, 12:24:21 AM »

How could anyone in such a case ever be against the DP??


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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2007, 01:51:24 AM »

How could anyone in such a case ever be against the DP??




Quite simple: Because my resistance against the DP is based on other things than whether the prisoner "deserves" to live or not. The ground principle for my own ethical system is that violence is always forbidden, except for self defense. To uphold the principle in such situations - only the amount of violence that is necessary to stop the violence is allowed. Aside to that I think that the DP dehumanizes the society - even if the prisoner is kind of a monster.

Regarding this guy (I remember the case well since I was on holiday in Spain when it happened and read UK newspapers about it): Let him starve himself to death if he wants to. That's his own decision and I couldn't care less (symphaty for murderers is certainly not the reason why I oppose the DP)

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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2007, 02:50:13 AM »

Sorry Henrik but I do not agree with that.

"Violence is forbidden, except for self defence"? What about the kids he killed? Obviously they did not have the sufficient "violence" to stop the violence that struck and killed them. You're talking about dehumanization of society?? This beast took the life of 2 ten year old humans. Yet the beast stays alive. Where's the dehumanization here? This guy, like many others as for example Belgiums number one kid killer Dutroux, should be long gone by now.



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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2007, 04:52:33 AM »
Just found the following on Huntley's 'Life' sentence.....

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'Life means life'

The Department for Constitutional Affairs said Lord Woolf, the Lord Chief Justice, would decide Huntley's tariff.

Huntley was not covered by rules that created a "life means life" rule for multiple murderers because Holly and Jessica were killed before the guidelines were updated.

Instead Huntley's case would be decided under "transitional arrangements".

The report also claimed that Huntley had become a hate figure in Wakefield Prison.

It said he had been sent a hangman's noose by inmates and has had a £100,000 price put on his head.

Roy Whiting was given a 50-year jail tariff by former Home Secretary David Blunkett for killing schoolgirl Sarah Payne.

Other "lifers" who face never being released include Bronson, dubbed Britain's most violent prisoner, and Maudsley, who ate the brains of one of two inmates he murdered in Wakefield jail in 1979.

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Re: A Totally 'British' Sentence.
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2007, 06:09:19 AM »
Quite simple: Because my resistance against the DP is based on other things than whether the prisoner "deserves" to live or not. The ground principle for my own ethical system is that violence is always forbidden, except for self defense. To uphold the principle in such situations - only the amount of violence that is necessary to stop the violence is allowed. Aside to that I think that the DP dehumanizes the society - even if the prisoner is kind of a monster.


So, if someone raped, tortured, and murdered your wife and children, you wouldn't want him executed???

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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2007, 06:25:05 AM »
The ground principle for my own ethical system is that violence is always forbidden, except for self defense


Thats exactly the way I look at the DP. Its self defense....RETROACTIVE.

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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2007, 08:21:42 AM »
The ground principle for my own ethical system is that violence is always forbidden, except for self defense


Thats exactly the way I look at the DP. Its self defense....RETROACTIVE.



Ye Pizz,

Don't you guys out there call it 'Justifiable Homicide'?

I know here one can break the law to, I believe, any extent so long as one can demonstrate in a Court of Law that they were in fear for their life and hence by doing so justify their actions.

Of course when it comes to the dp it is referred to as 'State Sanctioned Murder' over there. Here we used to politely refer to it as 'The Dread Deed'.

It could be argued that by taking an offender out of Society then that Society is protected so why implement the dp?

However........ I personally think that there should be a measure of Punishment/Retribution sought. LWOP? Hmm... Maybe that ol' chestnut saying should be considered - "Let The Punishment Fit The Crime".

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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2007, 10:25:00 AM »
I don't know why this POS is so keen to be moved into general population, he wouoldn't last two minutes.  He has got to be one of the most hated inmates in the system (and that takes some  doing) and is deluding himself if he thinks otherwise.  On the otherhand, maybe he does know this and it is an attempt to commit suicide by murder.  It would have been so much simpler if they had just hung him.

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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2007, 03:32:12 PM »
I don't know why this POS is so keen to be moved into general population, he wouoldn't last two minutes.  He has got to be one of the most hated inmates in the system (and that takes some  doing) and is deluding himself if he thinks otherwise.  On the otherhand, maybe he does know this and it is an attempt to commit suicide by murder.  It would have been so much simpler if they had just hung him.


Now you're talking!!!

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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2007, 08:21:42 PM »
I don't know why this POS is so keen to be moved into general population, he wouoldn't last two minutes.  He has got to be one of the most hated inmates in the system (and that takes some  doing) and is deluding himself if he thinks otherwise.  On the otherhand, maybe he does know this and it is an attempt to commit suicide by murder.  It would have been so much simpler if they had just hung him.

Yeah I hope he gets what he deserves if and when he gets moved to general population. If I remember correctly he has already tried to commit suscide a few times. Somebody should tell him how to do it right so the people in (Musliland..did I day that out loud....silly me what I meant to say is) England can stop paying for his sorry @$$.
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2007, 05:18:20 AM »
Soo....this is the model that they want us to follow?

I remember as a kid that one of the comics did a parody.  They showed 2 guys at a large dining table in a grand hall with servants serving multi course meals.  Just the lap of luxury.  Then the warden enters the room and tells one of them that they are paroled, he has to leave.  One of the servants opens a side door which opens directly to a drab dreary street.  He is escorted out and his cell mate looks down in a lonely sullen look.  About that time you hear shots ring out from the street, a woman screams, and the newly paroled cell mate walks back through the door, hands the warden a gun, says "I did it", and sits back down at the table.  He looks across the table at his cell mate, wipes his forehead and proclaims, "WHEW! THAT WAS A CLOSE ONE!"

Peter, the case you have cited is almost life imitating parody.
When a murder is committed, a horrible fate
is thrust upon the victim's family.

The surviving family is unwillingly sentenced to a life of hell...chained to the fate of the person who took their loved ones' lives.  We are counting down the days until our sentence is lifted and we are set free.