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Offline john

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Alternative Therapies
« on: July 14, 2012, 05:34:40 AM »
I would really like to give up smoking, I have tried all the regular methods such as patches and gum without success and was wondering if anyone had any experience of alternative therapies.  I have seen adverts for Hypnotherapy and Acupuncture that claim they will help you quit smoking and was wondering what peoples views were and if anyone had any information as to whether they really work.

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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2012, 06:04:35 AM »
Hypnotherapy with other technoqies at the same time can work very well. Take a holistic approach as no one magic bullet exists.
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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2012, 07:03:54 AM »
Cold Turkey.  And put the money you use for cigarettes in a jug for use on a vacation.  Only way to fly.
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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2012, 09:24:19 AM »
I used the Nicorette 4 mg. mini lozenges to go from 2 packs a day to 0 in 30 days. Was not easy, but, with the Nicorette , it was tolerable. You can still smoke and take the lozenges,but, as you progress, the taste of the cigarette becomes even worse as you build up the chemical from the Nicorette in your system,until, you have no desire for either the Nicorette or cigarettes.My last cigarette was Jan 30 2010 and I have not been tempted since,and I live in a household of "diehard" smokers.......
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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2012, 09:40:52 PM »
My mother quit smoking right after I had to admit her to the hospital when she had a breathing problem. That gave her a scare. She has been smoke free for over 3 years.

I still question why cigarettes are still legal in the first place. Logically they should be outlawed because there is a high probability that a life threatening illness or even death can occur from it. It's essentially murder. If you want to get away with murdering innocent people, just work for a company that produces cigarettes. If this offends anyone, I apologize but yeah.
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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2012, 12:45:04 AM »
I'm into sports all my live, so I was never a smoker. It's an addiction like to beeing overweight or drink too much.
I think one must be ready in their mind to quit, my mother was a strong smoker, but she could
throw a halt full package of cigarrettes in the trash and never smoke again for ten years, I had
also a friend who smoked a long time and came one day to the conclusion that smoking is nonsense
and never started again without having a problem with that.
But I know , as a nonsmoker I can easily say that, anyway, good luck :-*   
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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2012, 03:31:41 AM »
My mother quit smoking right after I had to admit her to the hospital when she had a breathing problem. That gave her a scare. She has been smoke free for over 3 years.

After being a smoker for over 30 years, I would like to give up before it gets to this point.

I still question why cigarettes are still legal in the first place. Logically they should be outlawed because there is a high probability that a life threatening illness or even death can occur from it. It's essentially murder. If you want to get away with murdering innocent people, just work for a company that produces cigarettes. If this offends anyone, I apologize but yeah.

Agreed, I believe that if cigarettes were invented today they would be declared illegal.

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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2012, 03:49:27 AM »
I'm into sports all my live, so I was never a smoker. It's an addiction like to beeing overweight or drink too much.

 :)  I smoke, I drink too much, I'm overweight and I don't do nearly enough exercises.  I'm a heart attack waiting to happen.

I think one must be ready in their mind to quit, my mother was a strong smoker, but she could
throw a halt full package of cigarettes in the trash and never smoke again for ten years, I had
also a friend who smoked a long time and came one day to the conclusion that smoking is nonsense
and never started again without having a problem with that.


It takes a lot of will power to go down this route and I wish I had it.  I think part of the problem is that I work in a very busy, stressful environment and having a quick cigarette is a recognised way of escaping for a few minutes, most of my staff smoke and I don't know any who have successfully quit.  I've tried going cold turkey in the past and it didn't last very long, as I said in my original post I've tried most conventional methods and now I'm starting to think about alternatives.

But I know , as a nonsmoker I can easily say that, anyway, good luck

Thank you  :-*

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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2012, 03:16:15 PM »
John,

At one time in my life, I was a 4 pack a day smoker.  Smoking is the worst addiction ever.  The desire to smoke overpowers most people's will power.  And you can always find an excuse to start back again.  Everyone around me smokes.  I am too stressed out.  I need a cigarette to calm my nerves, then I can quit again.  I will just smoke one then quit.  I said all the lines to myself and others many times over.

I started at the age of 16 and smoked more on than off from then on.  I quit for a while with each of my 3 pregnancies.  But it did not last.  I quit 3 more times over the years, they did not last either.  But each time I quit, I told myself, if I wanted to, I could smoke again.

The last time I quit, the doctor told me if I did not quit, I would die.  I still had 3 teens at home who needed a mother.  And I  did not want to die.  I had seen what emphysema was like from watching my father struggle to breathe.  I did not want that for myself. 

When I quit for the last time, I had to tell myself, this is the last time I can smoke.  I can never smoke again. Every time I wanted a cigarette after that, I asked myself, am I bigger than a cigarette, or is the cigarette bigger than me?  My answer was always, no, I am bigger than they are.  That helped me through it.

After 26 years of smoking heavily, I quit cold turkey, while working stressful night shifts at the hospital with other smokers. 

I was bigger than cigarettes are.

Now, 30 years later, the smell of cigarettes nauseates me.  I no longer have a desire for them.

I will tell you one other thing that helped me quit.  When I first quit smoking, I cut a drinking straw to the size of a cigarette.  Each time I felt like I NEEDED a cigarette, I used the straw like one.  Pretended to light it, puffed on it, tapped it in an ashtray, while talking on the phone, drinking a soda, after eating, etc., then I put it out. 

Yes, I felt silly doing it, but it worked for me.  It had the right feel to it, and it was psychologically satisfying, while not filling my lungs with smoke, but pure air.  After a few weeks of that, I no longer needed it anymore, and could do without.

One other time, that I quit smoking on my own, each time I wanted a cigarette, I brushed my teeth, then exercised to beat heck.  Cigarettes taste terrible after brushing your teeth.  Exercise takes your mind off wanting the cigarette.  I quit that time too, and lost weight.  But unfortunately, I had not told myself that that was the last time I would ever smoke again.  It was still one of those times when I was giving myself permission to start again if I wanted to do so.

John, you can do it too. I have faith in you.  It is just will power over the mind tricks of cigarette addiction.

Now let us know how you are doing with the quitting.
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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2012, 07:35:49 PM »
Guess I am the one who took the easy cheat's way out. After giving up on giving up my Dr prescribed Zyban for me (this was back in 2001 I am sure there are different drugs for it now). I weighed up the risks v's rewards and took my chances. After 5 days I never needed another smoke (and don't to this day). I gave up on 20thof December and didnt even need a smoke on NYE!!!!
 
There no side effects to be suffered (although everyone is different) and I was sceptical at first that the drug would work but it sure did it's thing!! The Aust Defence Force paid for it so i don't know how expensive it was.
 
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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 02:13:31 AM »
I quit about 10 years ago as my wife told me that ;D we quit smoking. It was tough for me (1-2 packs/day), but I donīt want that my wife would get the chance to remind me all my life that she quit smoking and i didnīt. Meanwhile I smoke afine cigar or some rillos when thereīs a reason for that. Insteaf of smoking menthol when Iīm ill, I smoke for pure pleasure. I like it as it is now.

Oh, my wife is still smoking....  ;D
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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2012, 02:49:44 AM »
I used to use the word Smokin to describe my wife to my friends ...... These days I use the word Ex
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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2012, 11:53:46 AM »
Everyone has a stuggle in life with me its keeping the wine under control  :'(
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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2012, 12:27:48 PM »
Everyone has a stuggle in life with me its keeping the wine under control  :'(


I could use some wine right about now.

Actually, I would like to have a Margarita!
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Re: Alternative Therapies
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2012, 06:10:52 PM »
I STILL don't know why I quit! 5 years ago, I was sitting out in my workshop and ran out of cigarettes. I never went to buy any more. I smoked for 42 years and the last 10 years of that, I also dipped snuff. Sometimes both at the same time. I never dreamed I would quit. I had never even THOUGHT about quitting. I had open heart surgery, 9 years ago and was smoking again, 8 days after the surgery. I LITERALLY ran out and never went to buy any more. Hardest thing I ever did. I STILL want one every day but I won't smoke one. I know if I smoke just 1,it will probably undo what I've done. No pills, no patches. I think sunflower seeds saved my life. Went to a Pulmonologist about 3 years ago. He did every kind of breathing tests he could think of. We were both shocked. He said I had no COPD, no enphysema, just a slight touch of asthma. Not bad for a 64 year old. I did iy. I hope you can, too.
 I made it as hard on myself as I could. I have Friends that will light up as soon as they get in my pickup. I won't smoke one.
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