Started by turboprinz, April 22, 2012, 10:05:07 AM
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"Most interesting post. I hardly see how I 'ran him off'. I bluntly stated my view and if he chose to leave.... tough. You make it sound like I had a big six gun to his head. A bullshit post ICE. He also chose this thread to go completely off topic.If my reposts are disliked by another poster that is not my problem. If admin or a moderator thinks that I am wrong, I will apologise. Seems to me you are the forum police here."
As much as it sucks for the offender to lose someone they love, it's not the death penalty's fault, it's not the prosecutor's fault, it's not the judge's fault, it's not the jury's fault. It is nothing more than the murderer's fault for their own family suffering. If the perp didn't kill in the first place then his family wouldn't experience this loss.
@ v1976raYou wrote: "Yeah, what you said is true."I wrote: "Sorry to hijack this thread, by the way."You wrote: "Yeah, you did. And for what? To spout anti propaganda."Well, at least my particular brand of anti propaganda is TRUE. It must be, because you told me it is! Sir Daniel spouts TRUE anti propaganda. Ha ha - I've achieved something in this life.Here's some problems you have, from where I'm sitting...You bang on about stuff which has nothing to do with my reason for being more in favour of LWOP than the DP, and it is stuff we all know already... "The murderers family is suffering directly as a result of the actions of that loved one." Well of course, that's obvious to anyone with half a brain and it has never been in question, has it? It's got nothing to do with the original point so why bother spouting it out?"Bundy's death was far more human and dignified than what he subjected those women to." Again, not in question, and not relevant to the original point. You really must pay a little more attention before unlocking your trusty gun cabinet, loading up your Magnum and blasting it in the direction of anyone who tries to make a case for LWOP which clearly conflicts with your "Hang 'em high yee-haw" en-grained mindset!Here's another problem you have...You are making the mistake of lumping me in with the die hard anti DP brigade and you are wrong. I quote the very first words I wrote in this thread, which you can scroll upwards and find up there somewhere, if you can be arsed..."Personally, I have no issue with someone being lethally injected for committing acts of violent and premeditated murder, none at all."We KNOW that whoever commits acts of premeditated murder is evil and must be punished to the fullest. We KNOW that murderers destroy innocent families. We KNOW that murderers show no mercy for their victims. We KNOW that murderers have a choice not to kill. We KNOW that murderers bring it all on themselves. We KNOW all this. I am trying to think about, care about another group of people in all of this... Unlike yours, MY mind refuses to treat the families of murderers as though they too are murderers. That they too are guilty. That they too must be punished. My mind is able to separate a murderer and his/her family and distinguish between the two. I understand I'm drinking at an empty bar here! Banging on about how the murderer brought the pain to his/her family themselves, so TOUGH luck on that family is a little Dubya, don't you think? Ever heard of victim support? Families of convicted murderers, are they not VICTIMS just like the families of those that have been murdered? The mother who is woken in the early hours by the telephone; it's the police; her son has just been arrested on suspicion of murder. A year later he's found guilty of capital murder and given the death penalty. Eleven years later he's executed. Sorry, mother, tough luck, LWOP was too good for him and we care nothing about you and your family."But by your line of thinking, we should just open the doors to the prisons and let all those people go free just to ease the burden on their families?"WHAT, are you talking about?! Who said anything about letting people out of jail? I'm for locking people up until they die! Clearly, you have no idea about my "line of thinking" because you're too obsessed with your own line of thinking to bother to understand someone else's if it's in conflict with yours. In-fact, I'm convinced you don't even bother to read properly what someone has written. Like a red flag to a Spanish bull, you see the words "maybe LWOP instead of the DP?" and BOOM, you're off, pounding away at your keyboard like a hooker on Craigslist. There's an enemy in your midst and it must be destroyed.Please, stop rolling out your standard arsenal of reasons that justifies the death penalty for YOU and that have nothing to do with MY reasons as to why I think perhaps life without parole might serve more people better and create less victims.I like coming here, reading many people's views and writing here from time to time. I love an INTELLECTUAL debate (hard to find as they are!) but for God's sake do READ what has been written before firing off a bunch of irrelevant nonsense!