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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #105 on: April 13, 2012, 07:23:49 AM »

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Danish company Lundbeck takes an active and dedicated part in executions of human beings. Here is the full story: the facts and the numbers.

April 13, 2012

Lundbeck’s Pentobarbital kills its 48th patient in Florida on April 11th, 2012

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By The Pentobarbital Experiment

April 12, 2012 – Lundbeck Executes #48
Lundbeck‘s Pentobarbital kills its 48th patient in Florida on April 11th, 2012.  :)
 
The death lab trio continues its dreadful deeds and kills another in the United-States.  :)
 
After twenty-eight years on death row, David Gore was put to death by the state of Florida.  :)
 
As reported by the Department of Corrections spokeswoman Ann Howard, Gore met with a spiritual adviser earlier Thursday and was visited by his mother and an ex-wife. He was calm and cooperative.
 
David Gore was pronounced dead at 6:19pm, he was 58 years old.  :P :D ;D
 
Lundbeck & Co are now responsible for 48 out of the 57 executions carried out so far in the United States since December 2010, when Lundbeck stepped in the business of death.  :)
 
5 new patients await the infamous trio’s treatment in April 2012:
 
 Mark Wiles – Ohio – April 18, 2012
 Daniel Greene – Georgia – April 19, 2012
 Shannon Johnson – Delaware – April 20, 2012
 Thomas Kemp – Arizona – April 26, 2012
 Beunka Adams – Texas – April 26, 2012
 
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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #106 on: April 13, 2012, 11:56:51 AM »
Hopefully ALL of the victims' families and friends will find peace and a sense of justice.  I can't imagine having to wait 28 years how awful for the loved one's and the MVS who do not live long enough to see justice served.

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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #107 on: April 24, 2012, 02:42:50 PM »
Go Florida!
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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #108 on: May 09, 2012, 01:46:28 PM »
"Wow! Intelligence fail!"

Attack the post and not the poster or discussion moves swiftly to dispute.


"Angela Hommell was raped and had her life threatened by David Gore…she has endured more at the hands of this particularly nasty man than all of us combined."

You have no idea what you are saying there. Many on this board have endured.

I do agree with you in principle but seeing as she lives in COS, it is stretching it as far as I am concerned to say "I am German and the DP is barbaric". If she does not accept the laws of the land she elects to live in, then perhaps she should return to Germany. I cannot tolerate immigrants who have a 'pick and mix' policy of acceptance of the laws of their host nation. I see it as no better than immigrant Muslims demanding Sharia law. If she had just said "I do not agree with the DP" this would not have been a very different matter.

I also consider that she is removed from the families of the murder victims. Her statements IMO do not show any respect whatsoever to them and their feelings. She is still living.

"I'm Roman Catholic and in Germany we think the death penalty is barbaric," is bound to get a reaction. She lives in Colorado Springs for Gods sake! Another EEC 'holier than thou' attitude and from a nation that in living memory has had a very different attitude to killing people. I personally seem to recall that Germany was extremely good at it.

In any event, I suspect that bleatings of anti DPers will get nowhere with this vile despicable excuse for a human being.



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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #109 on: May 09, 2012, 07:05:26 PM »
I live by the law of the land.   Reported the rape and attempted murder to the proper authorities.  The sheriff dept. and the DA did not prosecute Fred  Waterfield and Dave  Gore for their crime against me.  Does this mean since the sheriff and DA are citizens are not immigrants like me, you were comfortable that they didn’t follow the law of the land and ignored the crime against me because I was a legal immigrant?
 I was told to take my ass back to Germany.  My crime? Expressing my opinion and exercising my first amendment right to speak.  What will the immigration policy of our Nation be?  I can stay as long as I agree with you?  And when I do disagree with you, that is grounds for deportation.   Would sharia law for Muslims be much worse?
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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #110 on: May 09, 2012, 07:26:41 PM »
I live by the law of the land.   Reported the rape and attempted murder to the proper authorities.  The sheriff dept. and the DA did not prosecute Fred  Waterfield and Dave  Gore for their crime against me.  Does this mean since the sheriff and DA are citizens are not immigrants like me, you were comfortable that they didn’t follow the law of the land and ignored the crime against me because I was a legal immigrant?
 I was told to take my ass back to Germany.  My crime? Expressing my opinion and exercising my first amendment right to speak.  What will the immigration policy of our Nation be?  I can stay as long as I agree with you?  And when I do disagree with you, that is grounds for deportation.   Would sharia law for Muslims be much worse?
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/may/09/letter-early-prosecution-of-gore-might-have/

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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #111 on: May 10, 2012, 01:33:55 AM »
Am I assuming correct that you are Angela Hommell? It is difficult to tell, especially over the internet where anybody can pretend to be someone they are not.

If so, then may I pass on my deepest sympathies for what you endured at the hands of David Gore (and Waterfield). Whilst I understand that watching the execution did not bring you closure, I do hope it’s the beginning of the healing process (at the very least).

Also please ignore some of the comments made about you on this board. A lot of members appear to be so gung ho for the ‘hang em high’ policy that they will reject any vague ‘anti agenda’. Even if that comment comes from a victim of rape at the hands of the executed (such as yourself).

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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #112 on: May 10, 2012, 01:36:57 AM »
I suspect that the new posters AsP and legalimmigrant are one of the same.

I shall however reply.

Firstly, AsP has 'quoted' me but actually there are quotes from another poster included.

"Angela Hommell was raped and had her life threatened by David Gore…she has endured more at the hands of this particularly nasty man than all of us combined."

My reply to this is that there are many on this board who have also endured terrible things so the statement is clearly untrue.

The rest of the 'quote' refers to the fact that Angela Hommell lives in Colorado Springs. As an immigrant, I commented that while she of course has the right to voice her opinion on the death penalty, I find it ludicrous that she goes on to say 'we Germans consider it barbaric'.

Firstly, she is not an elected spokesperson of Germany and indeed likes her country sufficiently to be living in Colorado! This is why I accused her of being a 'pick and mix' immigrant. I am sick of people living in other countries who try to introduce their 'culture' to their host nation.

I have nothing more to say about this matter.

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"I live by the law of the land. Reported the rape and attempted murder to the proper authorities. The sheriff dept. and the DA did not prosecute Fred Waterfield and Dave Gore for their crime against me. Does this mean since the sheriff and DA are citizens are not immigrants like me, you were comfortable that they didn’t follow the law of the land and ignored the crime against me because I was a legal immigrant?"

If you were a victim of Gore, I am truly sorry for you. I have no idea why they were not prosecuted except to know it was certainly not because you are an immigrant. That is abject rubbish and if you really believe this, you need a lot more therapy.

"I was told to take my ass back to Germany. My crime? Expressing my opinion and exercising my first amendment right to speak."

You did indeed excercise your right to speak and I excercised mine and replied! I clearly stated that my objectiopn was that you live in the USA and decided to bring in the fact that you are German and Germans think the DP is barbaric. By doing this, you demonstrated to me that you are not embracing the culture of your host nation but being a 'holier than thou' German. You are therefore, in effect, no better than the Muslims who move in and attempt to introduce Sharia law.

Frankly, you are just spoiling for another fight but I think you are wasting your time and certainly mine.

As a victim of rape and possibly attempted murder, I think this is horrific and if you had posted on this board concerning your experience, you would have elicited an entirely different response. As it was, you chose to bring in your views on capital punishment which actually featured a great deal more than the terrible experience you claim to have had.In fact, it just makes me wonder whether you rape claims are real or are just an excuse to get into the anti DP debate.

You just do not seem to sound quite genuine to me and if I am wrong, I sincerely apologise.

The comment by UKTom
"Also please ignore some of the comments made about you on this board. A lot of members appear to be so gung ho for the ‘hang em high’ policy that they will reject any vague ‘anti agenda’. Even if that comment comes from a victim of rape at the hands of the executed (such as yourself). "
is not at all helpful (as usual).
If you had frankly stated your personal experience the result would have been different. The only person who commented was myself and I stand by what I posted concerning this issue.

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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #113 on: May 10, 2012, 02:40:38 AM »
Untrue Frenchy. You responded to my post and I had very few problems with it which Is why I commented no further. My post was more aimed at this:


Then get your a$$ back to Germany and keep your big effing nose out of our business!  >:(

 


Which was ‘thanked’ (more an more it appears to be a silly system as everyone ‘thanks’ every comment, even offensive ones, which undervalues there use and stops genuine posts gaining the recognition they deserve) by 7 people!

I though that was appalling because everyone is entitled to have an opinion on ANY matter which you also agree with. Mrs Hammell had more right than most because of what suffering she endured and the trauma that followed knowing that the system failed her and then 6 other victims!

P.s. I too am still cautious about the posters identity

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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2012, 03:00:31 AM »
My perception is that Grim Reaper responded in a similar manner to myself. Those who are immigrants should NOT be saying, "well, in my country we do things better".

The response will inevitably elicit "well f**k off back there".

It is a complete lack of respect of the host country to behave in such a manner. The fact that she was German is not Germain to the issue. 8)

You quite miss the point why there was a reaction. I guess your country has become so PC that you can not understand it.

Last year, on a beach in Cannes, I overheard a Muslim bitterly complaining about topless girls. (which he was oggling more than most). I did indeed chip in with exactly the same response as the Reaper.

I might add that personally, I am not keen of topless anywhere, which seems to be acceptable in France these days.
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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #115 on: May 10, 2012, 07:59:45 AM »
I live by the law of the land.   Reported the rape and attempted murder to the proper authorities.  The sheriff dept. and the DA did not prosecute Fred  Waterfield and Dave  Gore for their crime against me.  Does this mean since the sheriff and DA are citizens are not immigrants like me, you were comfortable that they didn’t follow the law of the land and ignored the crime against me because I was a legal immigrant?
 I was told to take my ass back to Germany.  My crime? Expressing my opinion and exercising my first amendment right to speak.  What will the immigration policy of our Nation be?  I can stay as long as I agree with you?  And when I do disagree with you, that is grounds for deportation.   Would sharia law for Muslims be much worse?
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/may/09/letter-early-prosecution-of-gore-might-have/


The letter:
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Angela Hommell, Colorado Springs

Letter: Early prosecution of Gore might have averted other crimes

Thank you for your coverage of the David Gore execution. I want to especially thank Melissa Holsman for her unbiased reporting of the story from several different perspectives. I felt she told my story about my rape and attempted murder in an unbiased way.

I am still numb since the execution of David Gore and I struggle for the energy just to get through the day. I assure you the public execution of David Gore did not give me closure. People keep asking me what would give me closure. It is very simple. I want the Indian River County Sheriff's Department and the state attorney of the 19th Judicial Circuit to acknowledge they made a horrible mistake in not prosecuting Fred Waterfield and David Gore for my rape and attempted murder.

Yet, I do not want them to apologize to me. They could not have prevented the crime that was committed against me. Yet, by their malfeasance, six women were abducted, raped and murdered. I want the state attorney and the Sheriff's Office to apologize to the Elliott, Byer, Ling, LaVallee, and Daley families and acknowledge their culpability in the crimes of Fred Waterfield and David Gore.


First off, Angela, let me say that I am extremely sorry for the crimes committed against you.  I am also sorry that the Sheriff's department and the prosecutors failed you in this case.  And you are very correct in saying that if they had listened to you, arrested them, and prosecuted them for their crimes, others may have lived.

I work for a domestic violence agency.  We frequently deal with these kinds of complaints from immigrant women, legal and illegal.  There are "good officers" and "bad officers" everywhere.  And sometimes the officer that is "good" this time, can be the "bad" one the next time.  There seems to be no consistency in how cases are worked or women who have been raped are treated.  Often they are treated with skepticism, derision and disrespect, depending on the officer working the case.  Other time the victim can be treated with respect and the case treated to proper investigation skills.  You happened to catch those who fall into the "bad" category, unfortunately.  For that I am very sorry.

We as advocates for rape victims, often find ourselves at odds with officers because of the way a victim is treated.  That is why we as advocates, must advocate for the victim who cannot stand up for herself.  Were you offered medical treatment?  Was a rape kit done on you? 

Did you report it immediately?  That question is the one that usually kicks in the officer's negative responses to the victims and causes them to treat her with suspicion.  The fact that the victim is devastated and does not want to admit to rape immediately, in the hopes it is all a bad dream, and it will just go away with a hot shower and a good cup of coffee are the ones who get this treatment most often.  By then, they have washed away the evidence, thought it over and then reported it.  At that point, the officers will often believe it was just rough sex, and will state that to you and to others.  Even though, we as advocates know this is not the case.

I really don't know your story other what you wrote here and in your letter, but I can tell you were terribly traumatized.  If you have not gotten treatment and or counseling for it, then you should still do so.  You cannot heal till you get help.  Please call 1.800.799.SAFE for the nearest Domestic Crisis or Rape Center nearest to you, then go see them.  They are there to help and counsel you and they do it for the victims for free.  There will be no cost to you, and it will all be confidential.

My very best to you, and my respects to you for speaking up. :-* :-*

Granny B
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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #116 on: May 10, 2012, 08:26:55 AM »
"Which was ‘thanked’ (more an more it appears to be a silly system as everyone ‘thanks’ every comment, even offensive ones, which undervalues there use and stops genuine posts gaining the recognition they deserve) by 7 people! "

The thanking system is excellent as it shows strength of agreement with a particular comment.

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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #117 on: May 10, 2012, 08:37:40 AM »
But the value of the "Thank" is completely devalued if it is used constantly...Members appear to use it simply because they feel they must because everyone else does.

Example:

Post 1: 'Hang Em High' - Gets numerous thanks
Post 2: Granny B's message above offering genuine support for a rape victim with very useful guidance - Gets a similar amount of thanks.

It doesn’t take a genius to see which post offers more value....yet the repeated use of the "thank you" for every post diminishes it...which I think is unfortunate because that was a really good post!

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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #118 on: May 10, 2012, 08:56:08 AM »
But the value of the "Thank" is completely devalued if it is used constantly...Members appear to use it simply because they feel they must because everyone else does.

Example:

Post 1: 'Hang Em High' - Gets numerous thanks
Post 2: Granny B's message above offering genuine support for a rape victim with very useful guidance - Gets a similar amount of thanks.

It doesn’t take a genius to see which post offers more value....yet the repeated use of the "thank you" for every post diminishes it...which I think is unfortunate because that was a really good post!


Not really, like Frenchy, I believe it just shows the strength of agreement with the statements.

There are some posts, that I partially agree with, and parts I disagree with, so I usually do not use a thank you for that.  But if I strongly agree, they get one.

To me, it is as simple as that.
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Susan Levy

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Re: David Alan Gore - FL - 4/12/2012
« Reply #119 on: May 10, 2012, 10:08:57 AM »
I give thank you's for posts that resonate with me.  Some make me laugh, some cry, some are thought provoking.  I have given thank you's for posts I might disagree with, but are well thought out and made me think. 

If you don't like the thank you options don't use them, but I don't think it is necessary or productive to criticize or challenge others' use of them.   :-*

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