We celebrate the life of the victim and celebrate justice being (finally) fulfilled for the MVS and all of society.
Deeg - I can appreciate that. I too am for both of those things, but not for trashing someone who just died. I too am happy that justice is served, and I can celebrate while maintaining an adult demeanour.
I did not post for some time but I read the most threads and postings. If I am allowed to adress to UK and Naviator this are my 2 cents worth:
I agree with you. I fully agree with you. BUT: Only if a convicted Honkey Tonk POS killer is able to bring back the life he or she has taken for NO reason whatsoever.
Donvito - let's talk about what is realistic. Of course he can't bring back the victim, we can't go back and prevent it from happening. It's crappy, but it is reality. So how can the killer make amends. Truth is, he can't. All he can do, at most, is pay with his life. If you can figure out a way for him to do more, I'm willing to listen, and I would most likely support such measures. The victims and their families deserve no less. But he has done all that was asked by the courts, which was forfeit his life. What more can he do?
"6. The decorum of this forum is PRO death penalty. We will, at every execution, hoot, holler and celebrate the life of the victim. You must understand that if you do not wish to view these acts of celebration you are free to leave and find a more suitable website geared towards your own beliefs. We will not modify our actions to suit those who are offended by us. Complaining will not be tolerated and could be cause for immediate removal from this site with no further notice."
Again, agree with UKTom. The rules say celebrate the life of the victim. I don't see anywhere that states trash someone who has paid their debt to society!!! He is square with the house again. People don't need to like what he has done, I don't like what he has done. He deserved his punishment, and received it. Let's everybody show some class and move on.
The murderer will never be "square with the house again." There is no "square with the house again" where the murder of our loved ones are concerned.
I'm sorry for your loss Granny. It's not the first time I've said it, and in all honesty, it may not be the last. We disagree on a few things/issues, and I know you take debates personally, even when they aren't intended that way. I think you view the house as the victim's family. If that's the case, you're right, he can never fully repay what he has taken. I was referring to everybody else here who have no involvement in this case. As a society, he has paid their debt to them. Society elects judges to represent them, the judge issued a sentence, and it was carried out. He owes society nothing. If the judge issued 20 years hard labour then death, well then I guess he short changed society 20 years hard labour. That's not the case. And until we can execute them multiple times, that's all we can ask. As I mentioned above, we can't bring victims back, I wish we could. When I refer to "square with the house", that's what I was referring to.
It's obvious you have never lost a loved one to murder. So obviously you fail to understand the feelings of the victim's family or their reasons. Until you have walked a few miles in our shoes, it would be better if you refrained from defending the murderers!
And no matter what you think, his "debt to society will never be paid." They only way to relieve that "debt to society" would be to restore the life of our loved one, and no one can do that!!
And you are way out of line saying I'm defending a murderer. I'm not saying to let him live, that he is right, or anything to that effect. I stated that it is classless to continue mocking someone who was just executed. If anything, it was a comment on the behaviour of members on the site, rather than a defense of the murderer. This murderer, believe it or not, still may have family who love(d) him. They may be lurking this site seeing what people are saying. While they should expect people to be for the execution of their relative, there is no need for dancing on the grave afterwards. We have seen other murderers relatives on here as members, so it does occur. They are grieving too, and we should conduct ourselves like adults, not adolescents. Also, the mocking the murderer after execution has been a contentious issue in the past with other members, so I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. And honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if such behaviour has driven members away.
You are right, I haven't lost someone to murder, but that doesn't mean I haven't experienced my share of tragedies in life. Just because I choose not to share things on this website, it doesn't mean the hardships/tragedies in my life should be diminished. You would not like me to diminish the effects of what you have experienced, so please provide me the same courtesy.