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on: Today at 04:40:30 AM 1 Chat Notices / Chat Notices / Re: no chat?????
on: May 16, 2013, 06:55:29 PM 2 Chat Notices / Chat Notices / Re: no chat?????
Checked with ScoopD and the chat is now up again.....
on: May 16, 2013, 02:32:44 PM 3 General Death Penalty / Upcoming/In Progress Death Penalty Trials / Re: Woman charged in boyfriend's death goes to trial
If there are any anti's out there that don't believe she should receive the DP for what she did to Travis, I have a link for you to see the actual crime scene photos and see just how heinous her attack on Travis was. Chelsea Hoffman has blogged them.
WARNING - These photo's are extremely graphic and are not suitable for ANYONE of ANY AGE but were shared for educational purposes pertaining to the trial. Proceed with Caution.
http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/4097182-travis-alexander-crime-scene-photos
I will not attach the image URL's to this thread because some of the photo's are so graphic, everyone has a choice to follow the above link and see them or not.
Yikes! I did not follow the trial, did she drug him, or shoot him before inflicting all of that pain...Wow, what a mess she is!
on: May 15, 2013, 05:21:52 PM 4 General Death Penalty / Scheduled Executions / MOVED: Robert Lynn Pruett - TX - 05/21/13
on: May 15, 2013, 05:18:50 PM 5 General Crime / Specific Cases / Re: Abortion Doctor Guilty of 1st Degree Murder - LWOP
It is such a high profile case, I am guessing he will be in segregation. Plus he is in his early 70's.
on: May 15, 2013, 05:15:26 PM 6 General Death Penalty / Scheduled Executions / MOVED: Jeffrey Demond Williams - TX - 5/15/13
This topic has been moved to Executed Offenders (Graveyard).
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on: May 14, 2013, 02:08:28 PM 7 General Death Penalty / Upcoming/In Progress Death Penalty Trials / MOVED: Abortion Doctor Guilty of 1st Degree Murder
on: May 14, 2013, 01:56:36 PM 8 General Crime / Specific Cases / Re: Abortion Doctor Guilty of 1st Degree Murder
Life without parole....no appeals!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/14/convicted-pennsylvania-abortion-doctor-gets-life-in-prison/
Convicted Pennsylvania abortion doctor gets life in prison
Published May 14, 2013
| Associated Press
advertisement
PHILADELPHIA – A Philadelphia abortion doctor convicted of killing three babies who were born alive in his grimy clinic agreed Tuesday to give up his right to an appeal and faces life in prison but will be spared a death sentence.
Dr. Kermit Gosnell, 72, was found guilty Monday of first-degree murder in the deaths of the babies who were delivered alive and killed with scissors.
In a case that became a flashpoint in the nation's abortion debate, former clinic employees testified that Gosnell routinely performed illegal abortions past Pennsylvania's 24-week limit, that he delivered babies who were still moving, whimpering or breathing, and that he and his assistants dispatched the newborns by "snipping" their spines, as he referred to it.
Prosecutors agreed to two life sentences without parole, and Gosnell was to be sentenced Wednesday in the death of the third baby, an involuntary manslaughter conviction in the death of a patient and hundreds of lesser counts.
Prosecutors had sought the death penalty because Gosnell killed more than one person, and his victims were especially vulnerable given their age. But Gosnell's own advanced age had made it unlikely he would ever be executed before his appeals ran out.
Gosnell has said he considered himself a pioneering inner-city doctor who helped desperate women get late-term abortions. Defense lawyer Jack McMahon said before the sentencing deal that his client's bid for acquittal was a battle.
"The media has been overwhelmingly against him," McMahon said. "But I think the jury listened to the evidence ... and they found what they found."
The gruesome details of Gosnell's operation came out more than two years ago during a grand jury investigation of prescription drug trafficking. Authorities raiding Gosnell's clinic for drugs instead found bags and bottles of fetuses, including jars of severed feet, along with bloodstained furniture, dirty medical instruments and cats roaming the premises.
Prosecution experts said one of the babies was nearly 30 weeks along when the abortion took place, and was so big that Gosnell allegedly joked the baby could "walk to the bus." A second baby was said to be alive for about 20 minutes before a clinic worker snipped the neck. A third was born in a toilet and was moving before another clinic employee severed the spinal cord, according to testimony.
A fourth baby let out a whimper before Gosnell cut the neck, prosecutors alleged. Gosnell was acquitted in that baby's death, the only one of the four in which no one testified to seeing the baby killed.
Gosnell's attorney argued that none of the fetuses was born alive and that any movements were posthumous twitching or spasms.
Pennsylvania authorities had failed to conduct routine inspections of all its abortion clinics for 15 years by the time Gosnell's facility was raided. In the scandal's aftermath, two top state health officials were fired, and Pennsylvania imposed tougher rules for clinics.
Partisans on both sides of the nation's polarized abortion debate were quick to weigh in after the verdict. Abortion foes said the case helped to illustrate the disturbing reality of abortion.
"This has helped more people realize what abortion is really about," said David O'Steen, executive director of the National Right to Life Committee. He said he hopes the case results in more states passing bills that prohibit abortion "once the unborn child can feel pain."
Supporters of legalized abortion said the case offered a preview of what poor, desperate young women could face if abortion is driven underground with more restrictive laws.
"Kermit Gosnell has been found guilty and will get what he deserves. Now, let's make sure these women are vindicated by delivering what all women deserve: access to the full range of health services including safe, high-quality and legal abortion care," said Ilyse G. Hogue, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America.
During the trial, Gosnell proved a solitary figure from beginning to end, with no friends or relatives in the courtroom, despite the fact he's been married three times and has six children, nearly all of them adults.
Gosnell did not testify, and called no witnesses in his defense. But McMahon branded prosecutors "elitist" and "racist" for pursuing his client, who is black and whose patients were mostly poor minorities.
"I wanted to be an effective, positive force in the minority community," Gosnell told The Philadelphia Daily News in a 2010 interview. "I believe in the long term I will be vindicated."
Gosnell was also convicted of infanticide, racketeering and more than 200 counts of violating Pennsylvania's abortion laws by performing third-term abortions or failing to counsel women 24 hours in advance.
The defense also contended that the 2009 death of 41-year-old Karnamaya Mongar of Woodbridge, Va., a Bhutanese immigrant who had been given repeated doses of Demerol and other powerful drugs to sedate her and induce labor, was caused by unforeseen complications and did not amount to murder, as prosecutors charged.
Bernard Smalley, a lawyer for the woman's family, said he now hopes to bring "some sense of justice and quiet to this family that's been through so much."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/14/convicted-pennsylvania-abortion-doctor-gets-life-in-prison/print#ixzz2TIpOVR3Y
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/14/convicted-pennsylvania-abortion-doctor-gets-life-in-prison/
Convicted Pennsylvania abortion doctor gets life in prison
Published May 14, 2013
| Associated Press
advertisement
PHILADELPHIA – A Philadelphia abortion doctor convicted of killing three babies who were born alive in his grimy clinic agreed Tuesday to give up his right to an appeal and faces life in prison but will be spared a death sentence.
Dr. Kermit Gosnell, 72, was found guilty Monday of first-degree murder in the deaths of the babies who were delivered alive and killed with scissors.
In a case that became a flashpoint in the nation's abortion debate, former clinic employees testified that Gosnell routinely performed illegal abortions past Pennsylvania's 24-week limit, that he delivered babies who were still moving, whimpering or breathing, and that he and his assistants dispatched the newborns by "snipping" their spines, as he referred to it.
Prosecutors agreed to two life sentences without parole, and Gosnell was to be sentenced Wednesday in the death of the third baby, an involuntary manslaughter conviction in the death of a patient and hundreds of lesser counts.
Prosecutors had sought the death penalty because Gosnell killed more than one person, and his victims were especially vulnerable given their age. But Gosnell's own advanced age had made it unlikely he would ever be executed before his appeals ran out.
Gosnell has said he considered himself a pioneering inner-city doctor who helped desperate women get late-term abortions. Defense lawyer Jack McMahon said before the sentencing deal that his client's bid for acquittal was a battle.
"The media has been overwhelmingly against him," McMahon said. "But I think the jury listened to the evidence ... and they found what they found."
The gruesome details of Gosnell's operation came out more than two years ago during a grand jury investigation of prescription drug trafficking. Authorities raiding Gosnell's clinic for drugs instead found bags and bottles of fetuses, including jars of severed feet, along with bloodstained furniture, dirty medical instruments and cats roaming the premises.
Prosecution experts said one of the babies was nearly 30 weeks along when the abortion took place, and was so big that Gosnell allegedly joked the baby could "walk to the bus." A second baby was said to be alive for about 20 minutes before a clinic worker snipped the neck. A third was born in a toilet and was moving before another clinic employee severed the spinal cord, according to testimony.
A fourth baby let out a whimper before Gosnell cut the neck, prosecutors alleged. Gosnell was acquitted in that baby's death, the only one of the four in which no one testified to seeing the baby killed.
Gosnell's attorney argued that none of the fetuses was born alive and that any movements were posthumous twitching or spasms.
Pennsylvania authorities had failed to conduct routine inspections of all its abortion clinics for 15 years by the time Gosnell's facility was raided. In the scandal's aftermath, two top state health officials were fired, and Pennsylvania imposed tougher rules for clinics.
Partisans on both sides of the nation's polarized abortion debate were quick to weigh in after the verdict. Abortion foes said the case helped to illustrate the disturbing reality of abortion.
"This has helped more people realize what abortion is really about," said David O'Steen, executive director of the National Right to Life Committee. He said he hopes the case results in more states passing bills that prohibit abortion "once the unborn child can feel pain."
Supporters of legalized abortion said the case offered a preview of what poor, desperate young women could face if abortion is driven underground with more restrictive laws.
"Kermit Gosnell has been found guilty and will get what he deserves. Now, let's make sure these women are vindicated by delivering what all women deserve: access to the full range of health services including safe, high-quality and legal abortion care," said Ilyse G. Hogue, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America.
During the trial, Gosnell proved a solitary figure from beginning to end, with no friends or relatives in the courtroom, despite the fact he's been married three times and has six children, nearly all of them adults.
Gosnell did not testify, and called no witnesses in his defense. But McMahon branded prosecutors "elitist" and "racist" for pursuing his client, who is black and whose patients were mostly poor minorities.
"I wanted to be an effective, positive force in the minority community," Gosnell told The Philadelphia Daily News in a 2010 interview. "I believe in the long term I will be vindicated."
Gosnell was also convicted of infanticide, racketeering and more than 200 counts of violating Pennsylvania's abortion laws by performing third-term abortions or failing to counsel women 24 hours in advance.
The defense also contended that the 2009 death of 41-year-old Karnamaya Mongar of Woodbridge, Va., a Bhutanese immigrant who had been given repeated doses of Demerol and other powerful drugs to sedate her and induce labor, was caused by unforeseen complications and did not amount to murder, as prosecutors charged.
Bernard Smalley, a lawyer for the woman's family, said he now hopes to bring "some sense of justice and quiet to this family that's been through so much."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/14/convicted-pennsylvania-abortion-doctor-gets-life-in-prison/print#ixzz2TIpOVR3Y
on: May 13, 2013, 03:18:55 PM 9 General Crime / Specific Cases / Re: Abortion Doctor Guilty of 1st Degree Murder
I say...why bother with the DP here, a waste of money..I agree this creature deserves it, but he will die in prison before the needle gets anywhere near him!
This is Pennsylvania, last DP applied was in 1999!
This is Pennsylvania, last DP applied was in 1999!
on: May 13, 2013, 02:02:20 PM 10 General Death Penalty / Scheduled Executions / Re: Nathan Dunlop - CO- 8/18 - 8/24/13
I love this letter! I wonder how long it would last before being deleted on PTO?
As soon as one of the mods saw it....
on: May 11, 2013, 07:39:35 AM 11 General Death Penalty / Upcoming/In Progress Death Penalty Trials / Re: Woman charged in boyfriend's death goes to trial
Pathological liars are not stooopid..The only way to catch them is to remember the lies... Lies have no substance so you cannot remember them like real memories... Trust Me I know!
on: May 11, 2013, 03:40:12 AM 12 General Death Penalty / Scheduled Executions / Re: William Van Poyck - FL - 6/12/13
I don't necessarily think that being a law enforcement officer should be the aggravating factor that it is since there is a known inherent risk that comes with consciously picking it as a career, that ordinary citizens don't have to face.
I am a microbiologist, during a lab accident I was exposed to tuberculosis (I am fine, but always on the table) I did not run in with a gun, into a hot situation, to save others...It is a risk of my career, so different from what law enforcement officers face, we need to protect them...kill them, we kill you back!
I am a microbiologist, during a lab accident I was exposed to tuberculosis (I am fine, but always on the table) I did not run in with a gun, into a hot situation, to save others...It is a risk of my career, so different from what law enforcement officers face, we need to protect them...kill them, we kill you back!
on: May 09, 2013, 03:35:00 PM 13 General Death Penalty / Upcoming/In Progress Death Penalty Trials / Re: Woman charged in boyfriend's death goes to trial
I am guessing she is doing time in County while this trial is going on...county time really really sucks, so the longer the better. It is almost as bad as the Special Seg or DR, no access to anything, unless of course she is doing the guards for special favors, wouldn't be surprised!
on: May 08, 2013, 08:53:29 PM 14 Forum Rules and Information / Rules / Re: PM me or Notify Mods with updates
Well we do have Miriam...ish LOL...time will tell!
on: May 08, 2013, 08:36:47 PM 15 General Death Penalty / Upcoming/In Progress Death Penalty Trials / Re: Woman charged in boyfriend's death goes to trial
Pammaboss please get the Jodi in Scheduled X place open
As soon as we are able LOL!
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