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on: May 11, 2014, 09:02:41 AM 1 General Death Penalty / Stays of Execution / Re: Robert James Campbell - TX - 5/13/14

I understand both points, sure a not perfect X (no B-word GGR  :-* ) has a negative impact on oh so critical media etc. and why
make it more difficult to carry out future executions  ??? , but on the other side, if we as DP supporters don't stand whole-heartedly behind our attitude (and then it don't matters if a murder suffered a little bit more than neccessairy) ,maybee we weaken our standpoint  too  ;)

on: February 04, 2014, 05:43:05 PM 2 General Death Penalty / U.S. Death Penalty Discussion / The (imagined) Horror of Dennis McGuire's Execution

The (imagined) Horror of Dennis McGuire's Execution
Dudley Sharp

Ohio justly executed rapist/torturer/murderer Dennis McGuire.

Unconscious, McGuire snored and the media went apoplectic.

The Horror is that the media will have 10,000 more articles about the imagined
suffering of this executed rapist/torturer/murderer than they did about the real
suffering of his victims, Joy Stewart, her husband Kenny, unborn child Carl and
their families and friends.

There is no indication that McGuire was in pain, at any time, or that he was
conscious after the first 1-3 minutes of the 25 minute execution process, as
pharmacological realities would dictate (see below).

There is every indication that Joy Stewart was conscious throughout the eternal
horror of her savage rape and murder. McGuire forced Joy from her car, choked
her, attempted to rape her vaginally, raped her anally, slashed her throat so
deeply it severed both her carotid artery and jugular vein, all the while Joy
realizing the horror of her own death, as well as that of her unborn child.

The baby’s name would have been Carl, his mother’s grave marker shows.

Joy's husband, Kenny, committed suicide within a year after their murders.

McGuire had more time on death row than Joy had in life.

"State prison records released Monday say McGuire told guards that (McGuire's
counsel, Robert) Lowe counseled him to make a show of his death that would,
perhaps, lead to abolition of the death penalty. But three accounts from prison
officials indicate McGuire refused to put on a display." (1)

"Amy Borror, a spokeswoman for the public defender's office, said all accounts
from execution eyewitnesses - which did not include Lowe - indicate McGuire was
unconscious at the time he struggled to breathe." (1)

"Medical experts would not comment on Mr. McGuire’s execution or speculate about
what he experienced. They agreed that used for surgery, the two drugs would not
cause pain. (2).

“By virtue of what they do, they cause unconsciousness, and they inhibit pain,”
said Dr. Howard Nearman, professor of anesthesiology at Case Western Reserve
University (2).

As there was no surgery, both drugs were given at overdose levels and both drugs
would enhance the effects of the other, of course there was no pain.

Do folks wheeze, snore, move or cough etc. while sleeping? Do those with opiate
overdoses wheeze, snore, move, cough, have spasms, etc.? Of course, which is all
that happened with McGuire, as some predicted.

The Associate Press witness:

"McGuire was still for almost five minutes, then emitted a loud snort, as if
snoring, and continued to make that sound over the next several minutes. He also
soundlessly opened and shut his mouth several times as his stomach rose and
fell." "A coughing sound was Dennis McGuire’s last apparent movement, at 10:43
a.m. He was pronounced dead 10 minutes later." (3)

No evidence of consciousness or pain.

Sadly, we have ignorant, anti death penalty folks, who just can't wait to get
their word out, such as McGuire's spiritual advisor, Father Lawrence Hummer,
stating, "There is no question in my mind that Dennis McGuire suffered greatly
over many minutes. . . . this experimental two-drug concoction had taken 26
minutes. I consider that inhumane." (4)

McGuire's children have threatened to sue the state over their father's just
execution.  So foul. They have learned so very little.

Their only comments should have been:

"We are truly sorry for the horror and suffering that our father has caused to
Joy, her husband, Kenny, their unborn son, Carl and to their family and friends. 
Our thoughts and prayers will be with them, always."

Maybe Father Hummer's only words should been along those lines, as well.

Possibly, someone in the media, and others, will look up the overdose properties
of the drugs involved (below) and tell us how McGuire could, possibly, have been
conscious. He couldn't have been.

The properties of the drugs and their overdosing effects are very well known -
by no means an experiment.

ASSOCIATED PRESS, Jan 27, 2014, 9:48 PM EST,

2) Family Sues in Protracted Ohio Execution, ASSOCIATED PRESS, New York Times,
JAN. 25, 2014

Legal Affairs Writer, The Daily Record, January 16, 2014 2:57PM

4)  "I witnessed Ohio's execution of Dennis McGuire. What I saw was inhumane",
Lawrence Hummer, The Guardian,, 22 January 2014 13.51 EST

FACT CHECKING: Midazolam, a sedative,  & Hydromorphone, an opiate/painkiller

The Ohio lethal injection protocol is 10mg of midazolam & 40mg of hydromorphone,
mixed together then injected.

The injection took 20 seconds.

The toxicity of benzodiazepines (including midazolam) overdose and risk of death
is increased when combined with opiates and when used intravenously, with
symptoms including respiratory distress, coma and death.

"More than 80 deaths have occurred after the use of midazolam  . . . 78% of the
deaths associated with midazolam were respiratory in nature." (MIDAZOLAM
HYDROCHLORIDE: Human Health Effects,

"The initial intravenous dose for sedation in adult patients may be as little as
1 mg, but should not exceed 2.5 mg in a normal healthy adult.", Midazolam

4 times that initial maximum dose was given to McGuire.

However, " . . . total dose >5 mg (of midazolam) "usually" (my emphasis) not
necessary to reach desired sedation . . .", Medscape, midazolam (Rx) - Versed,

Hydromorphone overdose,

"IV initial dose: 0.2 to 1 mg every 2 to 3 hours (given slowly over at least 2
to 3 minutes)",  Hydromorphone Dosage,

40-200 times those dosages were given to McGuire.

on: February 04, 2014, 05:40:55 PM 3 General Death Penalty / Stays of Execution / Re: Henry Watkins "Hank" Skinner - TX - 11/09/2011

I received several emails from Dudley Sharp (leading Pro Death Penalty Advocate, the man is a wealth of knowledge) today. This was one of them. I will post them all when I have more time.

The new DNA tests (2012) include the three murder victims, Twila and her two sons, as possible contributors.Thus, there is no way Hank Skinner can prevail.Skinner confessed twice and tried to plea bargain to one murder in exchange for a life sentence.The jacket, that the defense alleges may have belonged to their alternatesuspect, may have also belonged to Twila or one of her two sons, or some other, and has, now, been  excluded, yesterday (2/3/14), from being in evidence. ( sharpWritten and published before the latest DNA testsAustin American StatesmanUpdated: 6:38 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 3, 2011 | Posted: 6:37 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 3, 2011Skinner previously rejected DNA testingDudley Sharp, Special ContributorMake no mistake: It was Hank Skinner's decision not to test additional DNA, pre-trial.Had Skinner known that additional pre-trial DNA testing would have cleared him, he would have ordered it.Look at what the cabal of "test the DNAers" want us to believe:That Skinner refused additional pre-trial DNA testing, thereby taking the risk of receiving the death penalty, intentionally, and making that choice over taking the risk that he would be freed, instead.Does anyone believe that nonsense?The allegation that Skinner bowed to his original defense counsel's demands not to test additional DNA, pre-trial, holds no water.There is the minor problem of Skinner responding to his counsel, "OK, good call, I'll risk death over freedom." Absurd, of course.All Skinner had to do was:Order his attorneys to test the additional DNA, which they would have to do; or go to the judge and say, "My idiot attorney will not allow additional DNA testing that will clear me." At which point the court would insist on defense counsel following their clients' orders; or appoint new counsel who would.That is precisely what would have happened if Skinner had known additional DNA testing would have helped him.As Skinner knew the opposite was the case, he declined additional testing. It is the only possible reason Skinner denied additional pre-trial DNA testing.Now comes Skinner, et al, meaning defense counsel, a bunch of "well meaning" anti-death penalty folks, and a smattering of the blindly ignorant crying, "Test the DNA. What have you got to lose, except revealing you are about to execute another innocent?"Enter reality.We already have DNA that implicates Skinner, as well as much additional evidence that sent Skinner to death row for the murder of Twila Busby, his live-in girlfriend, and her two mentally impaired sons.Skinner's own experts said the DNA evidence against him was solid and that the blood splatter evidence contradicted Skinner's description of events.First and foremost, Skinner wishes to live longer, just as Busby and her two sons did. That is the main reason for the appeals. What Texas is attempting to prevent now in testing the DNA that Skinner refused to test pre-trial is a very bad precedent, to wit:In a successful effort to delay his execution, Skinner files motions to test the DNA material he had previously rejected pre-trial testing.If Skinner succeeds, future defendants will be able to demand do-overs because their trial strategy failed. It is a horrible precedent, which the state must fight, and for which all criminals and defense counsel are drooling over, both for very good and obvious reasons.(NOTE  2/3/14  this is the reason the state agreed to the DNA testing instead of having a court order it)Some in the media, inexcusably, are not presenting those facts to their readers.It is the important and only reason the state is fighting this fight: to stop criminals, their attorneys and their supporters from gaming the system even more.The state will prevail, as it should. And a triple murderer's life will be justly taken.Sharp, a Houston resident, is an author who has written extensively about the death penalty.

on: January 30, 2014, 11:46:08 AM 4 General Death Penalty / U.S. Death Penalty Discussion / Re: States consider reviving old-fashioned execution methods

I shall keep standing upon my soapbox proclaiming the virtues of Nitrogen asphyxiation as a execution method  because it is ....
3.The drug companies can go pound sand,try blocking this method.Air hunger??Really ??During an exercise intended to actually cause a legal execution.
If ever there was a need for a foolproof method of execution this is it .The one factor that states neglect in executing condemned prisoners is that they need to breath. Nitrogen asphyxiation is painless and the condemned just go to sleep. Its effects are fairly quick and there are  no problems with supply acquisition of the gas needed.Unlike "gasings" of the past, where sodium or potassium cyanide pellets were dropped into a vat of acid to produce a "gas" that subsequently killed the condemned prisoner, Nitrogen asphyxiation could use the same guernies used in L.I. executions. A non-rebreather mask and supply tubing plus the Nitrogen gas in a M-cylinder would be all that would be necessary for the execution utilizing the current gurney used for L.I. executions.
       With all the hoopla over the chemicals used in the execution process, perhaps the "K.I.S.S." principal should be considered in a "new" form of execution......

Nitrogen asphyxiation

Nitrogen asphyxiation is an occasional cause of accidental death and a theoretical method of capital punishment advocated in a National Review article, "Killing with kindness – capital punishment by nitrogen asphyxiation" (Creque 1995). The painful experience of suffocation is not caused by lack of oxygen, but rather because of a buildup of carbon dioxide in the bloodstream which is exhaled under normal circumstances.

When humans breathe in pure nitrogen, they exhale carbon dioxide without resupplying oxygen. Nitrogen is a colorless, odorless and tasteless gas that constitutes approximately 78 percent of the Earth's atmosphere. As such, the subject would detect no abnormal sensation. This leads to asphyxiation without the painful and traumatic feeling of suffocation. Because of this property, nitrogen in German is called "Stickstoff", in Dutch "stikstof", ("suffocation matter") - the Scandinavian languages call it "kväve", "kvælstof" and "kvelstoff" from "kväva/kvele/kvæle" ("to asphyxiate"), in russian "азот" ("not life-friendly").

For this reason, accidental nitrogen asphyxiation is a possible hazard where large quantities of nitrogen are used. Also, deliberate nitrogen asphyxiation is viewed by some as a more humane way to end a human life in a controlled setting. As the principal component in air, nitrogen poses no significant risk upon discharge.

    1 As an execution method
    2 Accidental deaths
    3 Physiology
    4 See also
    5 References
    6 References
    7 External links

[edit] As an execution method

Although execution by nitrogen asphyxiation was discussed briefly in print in 1995 (Creque), it is not used by any nation.

In a televised documentary in 2007,[1] the UK political commentator (and former Member of Parliament United Kingdom), Michael Portillo examined execution techniques in use around the world and found them unsatisfactory; his conclusion was that nitrogen asphyxiation would be the best method.
[edit] Accidental deaths

Accidental nitrogen asphyxiation causes about 8 deaths per year in the United States,[2] which is asserted to be more than from any other industrial gas. For example in 1981, shortly before the launch of the first Space Shuttle mission, two technicians lost consciousness and one of them died after they entered the Orbiter aft compartment which was pressurized with pure nitrogen as a precaution against fire.[3]

A laboratory assistant died in Scotland in 1999, apparently from asphyxiation, after liquid nitrogen spilled in a basement storage room.[4]
[edit] Physiology

A typical human breathes between 12 and 20 times per minute at a rate primarily influenced by carbon dioxide concentration, and thus pH, in the blood. With each breath, a volume of about 0.6 liters is exchanged from an active lung volume (tidal volume + functional residual capacity) of about 3 liters. Normal Earth atmosphere is about 78 percent nitrogen, 21 percent oxygen, and 1 percent argon, carbon dioxide, and other gases. After just two or three breaths of nitrogen, the oxygen concentration in the lungs would be low enough for some oxygen already in the bloodstream to exchange back to the lungs and be eliminated by exhalation. Crude simulation of oxygen transport through the lungs and blood stream suggests that the partial pressure of oxygen in arterial blood would be about 50 percent of saturation 1 minute after switching gases and would reach zero within 3 minutes.

Unconsciousness in cases of accidental asphyxia can occur within 1 minute. Loss of consciousness results from critical hypoxia, when arterial oxygen saturation is less than 60% (Fisher n.d.). “At oxygen concentrations [in air] of 4 to 6%, there is loss of consciousness in 40 seconds and death within a few minutes” (DiMaio & DiMaio 2001:231). As this procedure provides an atmosphere completely devoid of oxygen, the sequence of effects should be expected to occur even more quickly. At an altitude greater than 43,000 ft (13,000 m), where the ambient oxygen concentration is equivalent to 3.6% at sea level, an average individual is able to perform flying duties efficiently for only 9 to 12 seconds without oxygen supplementation (Fisher n.d.). The US Air Force trains air crews to recognize their individual subjective signs of approaching hypoxia. Some individuals experience headache, dizziness, fatigue, nausea, or euphoria, but some become unconscious without warning (Fisher n.d.). Equivalent training is unlikely for a condemned individual, making unconsciousness without warning probable, although as much as a 30 second warning is possible.

Loss of consciousness may be accompanied by convulsions (Fisher n.d.) and is followed by cyanosis and cardiac arrest. About 7 minutes of oxygen deprivation causes death of the cerebral cortex and presumably the medulla oblongata, which controls breathing and heart action

This may be a broken record by me, but, it is fool proof and not subject to drug company panty wetting.....

on: January 25, 2014, 06:04:01 AM 5 General Death Penalty / Executed Offenders (Graveyard) / Re: Kenneth Eugene Hogan - OK - 1/23/14 - Executed

This June 29, 2011, photo provided by the Oklahoma Department of Corrections shows Kenneth Hogan. Convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to die for the January 1988 stabbing death of Lisa Stanley at Stanley's home in Oklahoma City,

on: December 22, 2013, 12:39:47 PM 6 Forum Rules and Information / Rules / Re: If you requested membership and were refused...

I will tighten up security before the end of today.   sorry about that, it always happens the end of every year. 

on: December 18, 2013, 09:03:27 AM 7 General Death Penalty / U.S. Death Penalty Discussion / Meet the Graduating Class of 2013

The following graduated with honors during the 2013 term...

2013  Overall     Date        Name                  State      Method

 1        1321   01/16/13  Robert Gleason Jr.    VA   Electrocution
 2        1322   02/21/13  Carl Blue                  TX   Lethal Injection
 3        1323   02/21/13  Andrew Cook            GA   Lethal Injection
 4        1324   03/06/13  Frederick Treesh       OH   Lethal Injection
 5        1325   03/12/13  Steven Ray Thacker  OK   Lethal Injection
 6        1326   04/09/13  Rickey Lewis             TX   Lethal Injection
 7        1327   04/10/13  Larry Mann                FL   Lethal Injection
 8        1328   04/16/13  Ronnie Threadgill       TX   Lethal Injection
 9        1329   04/25/13  Richard Cobb             TX   Lethal Injection
10       1330   05/01/13  Steve Smith              OH   Lethal Injection
11       1331   05/07/13  Carroll Parr               TX   Lethal Injection
12       1332   05/15/13  Jeffrey Williams         TX   Lethal Injection
13       1333   05/29/13  Elmer Carroll             FL   Lethal Injection
14       1334   06/12/13  William Van Poyck     FL   Lethal Injection
15       1335   06/12/13  Elroy Chester            TX   Lethal Injection
16       1336   06/18/13  James DeRosa          OK   Lethal Injection
17       1337   06/25/13  Brian Davis              OK   Lethal Injection
18       1338   06/26/13  Kimberly McCarthy   TX   Lethal Injection
19       1339   07/16/13  J. Quintanilla, Jr.      TX   Lethal Injection
20       1340   07/18/13  Vaughn Ross            TX   Lethal Injection
21       1341   07/25/13  Andrew Lackey         AL   Lethal Injection
22       1342   07/31/13  Douglas Feldman      TX   Lethal Injection
23       1343   08/05/13  John Ferguson          FL   Lethal Injection
24       1344   09/10/13  Anthony Banks         OK   Lethal Injection
25       1345   09/19/13  Robert Garza            TX   Lethal Injection
26       1346   09/25/13  Harry Mitts Jr.          OH   Lethal Injection
27       1347   09/26/13  Arturo Diaz               TX   Lethal Injection
28       1348   10/01/13  Marshall Gore            FL   Lethal Injection
29       1349   10/09/13  Edward Schad, Jr.     AZ   Lethal Injection
30       1350   10/09/13  Michael Yowell          TX   Lethal Injection
31       1351   10/15/13  William Happ            FL   Lethal Injection
32       1352   10/23/13  Robert Jones            AZ   Lethal Injection
33       1353   11/12/13  Darius Kimbrough     FL   Lethal Injection
34       1354   11/12/13  Jamie McCoskey       TX   Lethal Injection
35       1355   11/20/13  Joseph Franklin        MO   Lethal Injection
36       1356   12/03/13  Jerry Martin             TX   Lethal Injection
37       1357   12/10/13  Ronald Lott              OK   Lethal Injection
38       1358   12/11/13  Allen Nicklasson       MO   Lethal Injection
39       1359   12/17/13  Johnny Dale Black    OK   Lethal Injection

The shortest stays on DR were Robert Gleason, 2 years, Jerry Martin 4 years and Andrew Lackey 5 years (All Volunteers)
The longest were John Ferguson 35 years and Edward Schad 34 years
The shortest for an involuntary X were Richard Cobb, Carroll Parr and John Quintanilla 9 years (Guess which state they're from  ;D)

The average stay on DR was 15 years...Satan is handing out diplomas in hell tonight.  8)

on: October 07, 2013, 03:22:33 PM 8 General Death Penalty / Executed Offenders (Graveyard) / Re: Allen Nicklasson - MO - 10/23/13

no, don't open the gas chamber back up.  Them things are more dangerous to the people around them than to the guy inside.  Just go back to rope and tell all them wusses in Europe about it and that is THEIR fault...

on: June 18, 2013, 09:19:07 PM 9 General Death Penalty / Executed Offenders (Graveyard) / Re: James Lewis DeRosa - OK - 6/18/13 - Executed

Last words and such...

"I can't express how truly sorry I am for the pain I've caused the Plummer family," DeRosa said from the Oklahoma State Penitentiary in McAlester. "I take full responsibility for their deaths. If not for me, they wouldn't have died that night."

DeRosa refused the meal from the daily prison menu offered to him.  He made no special last request.

I'm glad to see he acknowledged his guilt before he was executed and didn't turn his last words into a whine-fest.

on: June 10, 2013, 09:49:22 PM 10 General Death Penalty / Executed Offenders (Graveyard) / Re: William Van Poyck - FL - 6/12/13

I went to his page on pto...All the maggot mavens are charging up their "toys" and getting the whine fest going for the 12.  Lock and load the atomic generators to the mavens have enough power for the orgasm machines when they whack this tard...

on: June 10, 2013, 09:29:02 AM 11 General Death Penalty / Executed Offenders (Graveyard) / Re: Elroy Chester - TX - 6/12/2013

"Murphy says the most prestigious award that any Port Arthur firefighter can earn is the "Willie A. Ryman Medal of Honor."

Seems an especially good person was killed by Chester, RIP Mr.Ryman and i hope justice will be done in two days  >:(

on: May 16, 2013, 05:49:14 AM 12 Forum Rules and Information / Introductions / Re: SHEEEEEEEEE'S BAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!

I think Granny is keeping quiet on the forum as Cathy's new trial approaches in case someone quotes her or her family in court.  She will not want anything to jeapordise the outcome of Cathy's guilty verdict.  Only rabid antis believe the b1tch is innocent.

on: March 21, 2013, 12:52:42 PM 13 General Death Penalty / Kimberly McCarthy - TX - 6/26/13 - Executed / Re: Kimberly McCarthy - Execution Date Set January 29, 2013 new date April 3, 2013 and again 6/26/13

I hope the Dorothy Booth, her family and loved ones finally receive the justice they deserve. 


on: March 18, 2013, 05:44:52 PM 14 General Death Penalty / Stays of Execution / Re: Henry Watkins "Hank" Skinner - TX - 11/09/2011

If you Google "Hank Skinner" you end up with his website, my website ( and a Wikipedia page as the top hits.  About twice a year, Sandrine (wifeaux) comes along, removes the facts from Wikipedia, and replaces it with her propaganda/gossip.  Shortly thereafter it gets reverted (fixed) by the anti's who watch the page!

You know you're fighting a losing battle when your own side edits your propaganda out!  Personally, I think there are a bunch of honest anti folks who used to have questions about Hank's guilt but have read the facts in context and think they better find a different wagon to which to hitch their horses.  Even John/J.Bennett/John.B/J.B./etc. Skeptical Juror has gone silent on Skinner.

Not good news for Hank.

on: March 11, 2013, 08:53:12 PM 15 Forum Rules and Information / Need help? / Update on my daughter! :)

Just a little update on my precious, beautiful, strong, courageous, fighting daughter. There's not much to report as far as the paralysis, it's the same, from the head down. Her hands (from the elbows down) have regained a lot of movement but absolutely no strength. She has excruciating pain in her calves, feet, hands, elbows and on her head in the temple area, they have upped her pain meds a few times and added additional meds, all in all she has 12 medications prescribed to her but of course hospital staff allow her to refuse the ones she doesn't want to take. She is amazing in Physical and Occupational therapy and gives it 100% effort on her part, she has a great attitude!!!! It is going to be a long journey and this past week the doctors told us that she will be going home in pretty much the same condition she is now with the exception of a little more upper body strength.  :'( But she is strong and determined to beat this beast, Guillain-Barre Syndrome!!!!!! ♥ She may not walk out of the hospital when the time comes but SHE WILL WALK AGAIN!!!

Oh and the respiratory doctors have released her! She is done with that therapy. Still having an issue with low blood pressure, low potassium, high liver enzymes and she has only ate 3 meals in the past 6 days but today and yesterday were those meals so hopefully her appetite is returning again.  It seems like everyday we either take 2 steps forward and 1 back, or some days it is 1 step forward and 1 back.  It's going to be a long haul....   please continue to keep her in your prayers.
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