Ronald Reagan shooter John Hinckley JR may be set free

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A US Government mental hospital is seeking to eventually set free John Hinckley Jr, the man who tried to assassinate ex-president Ronald Reagan in 1981.

Hinckley, now 56, was committed to St Elizabeth's Hospital in Washington in 1982 after he was found not guilty by reason of insanity in the shock shooting of Reagan and three others, including Reagan's press secretary James Brady.

Prosecutors asked a closed court on Friday not to release him, CNN reported on its website today.

In their filing, they called Hinckley "a man capable of great violence" and said his mental condition left some concerns "that this violence may be repeated," the report said.

The hospital wants Hinckley to be able to live near his 85-year-old mother in Virginia.

Hospital lawyers and doctors filed a motion under seal at the end of July asking that Hinckley eventually be placed on "convalescent leave," but prosecutors quoted it in their own filing, making it part of the public record.

US District Judge Paul Friedman had scheduled up to a week of court hearings on the issue to start November 28.

Hinckley, a college dropout, waited for Reagan to walk out of a Washington hotel where he had given a speech on March 31, 1981.

Hinckley fired his six-shot .22 revolver at the then-US president. Reagan was seriously wounded but recovered.

Brady suffered a serious brain injury and never was able to return to his White House duties. Wheelchair-bound for the last three decades, he is now an advocate for gun control in the US.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/us-hospital-seeks-to-free-ronald-reagan-shooter-john-hinckley-jr/story-fn3dxity-1226156975626

Another article from earlier this year from CNN:

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-03-26/justice/hinckley.today_1_john-hinckley-furloughs-insanity?_s=PM:CRIME

Russki

This is a first class example why I think that all murderers who are classified as 'mad' should automatically get LWOP in a secure aslyum. What are these idiots thinking of?
Bombs do not choose. They will hit everything   ... Nikita Khrushchev

I once said, "We will bury you," and I got into trouble with it. Of course we will not bury you with a shovel. Your own working class will bury you.  ... Nikita Khrushchev

Granny B


John Hinckley, Jr.

This is not the first time the idiot doctors at the insane asylum have tried to free him.  Several years ago, it was learned that he had been allowed out with his parents to visit on passes, without letting the authorities know of it.  When it was found out, there was a huge outcry and the passes were withdrawn.  At that time, they also tried to free him, but it was determined he was still a danger to others. 

He is still obsessed with Jody Foster and still a violent danger to her.  I believe most of you know he was one of her stalkers, after seeing her work in the movie Taxi Driver.  He saw the movie 15 times.  He moved to Connecticut to stalk her, and even enrolled in one of her classes to be near her.  He wrote her poems, and love letters and talked to her on the phone.  He tried to impress her by killing someone. 

Just so you all know, stalkers do not give up on stalking their obsession.  They are more likely to kill the person they are obsessed with, because the feelings are not returned.  Jody is still in a lot of danger from this maniac.

One of the reasons he gave for trying to kill President Reagan, was to try to gain the attention of Jody Foster, because "he loved her."  But before he decided to assassinate Reagan, he followed  Jimmy Carter  from state to state in an effort to assassinate him first.  Hinckley was arrested in Nashville, TN while trying to assassinate Carter and  was arrested on a firearms charge.

From Wiki:

St. Elizabeths

Soon after his trial, Hinckley wrote that the shooting was "the greatest love offering in the history of the world," and was upset that Foster did not reciprocate his love.[13]

After being admitted, tests found that Hinckley was an "unpredictably dangerous" man who might harm himself, the target of his obsession (Foster), or any other third party. During 1983 he told Penthouse that on a typical day he will

    "see a therapist, answer mail, play guitar, listen to music, play pool, watch television, eat lousy food and take delicious medication."[14]

He was allowed to leave the hospital for supervised visits with his parents in 1999, and longer unsupervised releases in 2000.[3] These privileges were revoked when he was found to have smuggled materials about Foster back into the hospital. Hinckley was later allowed supervised visits during 2004 and 2005. Court hearings were held in September 2005 on whether he could have expanded privileges to leave the hospital. Some of the testimony during the hearings centered on whether Hinckley is capable of having a normal relationship with a woman and, if not, whether that would have any bearing on what danger he would pose to society.

On December 30, 2005, a federal judge ruled that Hinckley would be allowed visits, supervised by his parents, to their home in Williamsburg, Virginia. The judge ruled that Hinckley could have up to three visits of three nights and then four visits of four nights, each depending on the successful completion of the last. All of the experts who testified at Hinckley's 2005 conditional release hearing, including the government experts, agreed that his depression and psychotic disorder were in full remission and that he should have some expanded conditions of release.

After Hinckley requested further freedoms including two one-week visits with his parents, as well as a month-long visit, U.S. District Judge, Paul L. Friedman, denied that request on Wednesday, June 6, 2007; he did not deny the request out of a concern that Hinckley was not ready.

    The reasons the court has reached this decision rest with the hospital, not with Mr. Hinckley... the hospital has not taken the steps it must take before any such transition can begin.[15]

On June 17, 2009, a Federal judge ruled that Hinckley would be given the ability to visit his mother for a dozen visits of ten days at a time, rather than six, spend more time outside of the hospital, and even have a driver's license.[16] The court also ordered that Hinckley be required to carry a GPS-enabled cell phone to track him whenever he was outside of his parent's home, and he was forbidden to speak to the news media.[16] This was done over the objections of the prosecutors who said that he was still a danger to others and had unhealthy and inappropriate thoughts about women. Records show that he has had sexual relations with two women, one who was married for a long time and another who has bipolar disorder. Hinckley recorded a song titled "Ballad of an Outlaw", which the prosecutors claim is "reflecting suicide and lawlessness."[17]

Recently, a forensic psychologist at the hospital testified that "Hinckley has recovered to the point that he poses no imminent risk of danger to himself or others."[16] Hinckley returned to court in the spring of 2011 for further direction,[16] and was granted additional family visits in May 2011.[18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley,_Jr.(Wiki)

Now we come back around to this debacle, with them again wanting to free him.  I am sure we will again hear from Jody Foster on this issue again too.

" Closure? Closure is a misused word in the English language.  There is no such thing as closure for the family of a murder victim.  There will never be any closure for the death of our loved ones until we are dead ourselves.  The families have a lifetime sentence of anguish and sadness." 
Susan Levy

Grinning Grim Reaper

Dear Mr. Hinckley:

I just wanted to let you know that I support the efforts to get you released from the mental hospital.  Over time all people can realize that they've made mistakes and become rehabilitated.  I am sure you are sincerely sorry about your actions and can move forward and become a productive citizen.  Best of luck for your future release.

Best,

GGR

PS  Have you heard Obama is screwing Jody Foster?
Vengence is mine saith the Lord...who are we to question the instruments used to carry it out?

Granny B


Dear Mr. Hinckley:

I just wanted to let you know that I support the efforts to get you released from the mental hospital.  Over time all people can realize that they've made mistakes and become rehabilitated.  I am sure you are sincerely sorry about your actions and can move forward and become a productive citizen.  Best of luck for your future release.

Best,

GGR

PS  Have you heard Obama is screwing Jody Foster?


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
" Closure? Closure is a misused word in the English language.  There is no such thing as closure for the family of a murder victim.  There will never be any closure for the death of our loved ones until we are dead ourselves.  The families have a lifetime sentence of anguish and sadness." 
Susan Levy

ALgirl

 ;D ;D ;D BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!   ;D ;D ;D


Dear Mr. Hinckley:

I just wanted to let you know that I support the efforts to get you released from the mental hospital.  Over time all people can realize that they've made mistakes and become rehabilitated.  I am sure you are sincerely sorry about your actions and can move forward and become a productive citizen.  Best of luck for your future release.

Best,

GGR

PS  Have you heard Obama is screwing Jody Foster?

Elric of Melnibone

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October 03, 2011, 09:53:44 PM Last Edit: October 04, 2011, 06:45:39 PM by Granny B
OMG I just about died reading that one...DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grim, YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And i got the feeling hinckley will be singing  Lynard Skynard's Gimme back my bullets if he does get out...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMnSqcmANro&feature=related

(There ya go Elric.  Fixed it for you.  Granny B)
You can lead an ass to water and if you fight long and hard, you can make it drink.  But at the end of the day, after all the fighting, it is still an ass.

Banned from PTO 3 times so far for life.

deeg

When somebody tries to kill the President, and Hinckley came damn close, no one should get a second chance to live in society.  Too much is at stake.

Dee
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - Margaret Thatcher
The most terrifying words in the English language: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." - Ronald Reagan

v1976ra


Dear Mr. Hinckley:

I just wanted to let you know that I support the efforts to get you released from the mental hospital.  Over time all people can realize that they've made mistakes and become rehabilitated.  I am sure you are sincerely sorry about your actions and can move forward and become a productive citizen.  Best of luck for your future release.

Best,

GGR

PS  Have you heard Obama is screwing Jody Foster?


;D ;D ;D I spewed oatmeal on my monitor reading that one...  ;D ;D ;D

Granny B

Is Reagan Shooter Too Dangerous to Walk Freely?

November 30, 2011



Government lawyers told a federal judge Wednesday that the man who shot President Ronald Reagan in 1981 went to a bookstore recently where he perused books on Reagan and people who've tried to assassinate presidents.

Prosecutors who want to ensure that John Hinckley Jr., is not released from a mental hospital told the court that Hinckley is deceptive and unstable. They said Secret Service agents who tracked Hinckley during a visit to his mom's home followed Hinckley when he was supposed to be seeing a movie. Instead, he went to a bookstore across from the theater.

Hinckley "has a long history of deception," they said, and "does whatever he wants and thinks he can get away with it."

The lawyers are in court to review Hinckley's case. Hospital officials want Hinckley to be allowed extended visits outside the mental facility -- and eventually be released to live with or near his mother in Williamsburg, Va.



http://patriotupdate.com/15253/is-reagan-shooter-too-dangerous-to-walk-freely
" Closure? Closure is a misused word in the English language.  There is no such thing as closure for the family of a murder victim.  There will never be any closure for the death of our loved ones until we are dead ourselves.  The families have a lifetime sentence of anguish and sadness." 
Susan Levy

Michael



Am I the only one who thinks he looks (a bit) like Dexter?  :-X
I´m not sure if there´s a hell, but I believe in executed murderers.

deeg

OMG, Michael you are so right.

Dee
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - Margaret Thatcher
The most terrifying words in the English language: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." - Ronald Reagan

Granny B

Hinckley hearing focuses on whether he has interest in books on assassination s

By Carol Cratty, CNN
updated 7:36 PM EST, Mon January 23, 2012



Washington (CNN) -- A Secret Service agent who secretly was watching presidential assailant John Hinckley Jr. in a Williamsburg, Virginia bookstore said he got "goose bumps" when he realized Hinckley briefly had looked at a shelf of history books that included some dealing with presidential assassination.

Agent Jason Clickner testified Monday at a federal court hearing on whether Hinckley should be allowed increased visitation time away from a government mental hospital and whether he should eventually be released as a permanent out-patient.

Clickner told the court he was assigned to do covert surveillance of Hinckley on October 16, 2011. Hinckley visited a Barnes and Noble bookstore in Williamsburg, where he travels 10 days each month to visit his mother. During those trips, he is allowed a few hours of free time when he is not accompanied by his mother or anyone else. But testimony has shown the Secret Service frequently is watching.

Clinckner said Hinckley became "momentarily fixated" on a specific shelf of books although he did not stop to pick any up to leaf through.

Clickner said it was only after Hinckley had bought some music books in a different section and left the store to attend a movie that the agent went back to look at what had appeared to briefly interest the 56-year-old Hinckley.

The agent found two books dealing with the murder of presidents. One is called "The President and the Assassin," about the assassination of President WIlliam McKinley in 1901. The other volume is titled "Betrayal in Dallas: LBJ, the Pearl Street Mafia, and the Murder of President Kennedy," which deals with the assassination of John F. Kennedy in 1963.

Hinckley was found not guilty by reason of insanity in the 1981 shooting of President Ronald Reagan, his press secretary Jim Brady, Secret Service agent Timothy McCarthy and Washington policeman Thomas Delahanty.

According to the agent, the shelf also carried a book called "Collision Course: Ronald Reagan, the Air Traffic Controllers and the Strike That Changed America." That book and a nearby one about presidential debates have pictures of President Ronald Reagan on the cover.

Hinckley's lawyer, Barry Levine, asked Clickner if there was any danger in Hinckley seeing a book about the air controllers. Clickner replied no but then quickly added when an "attempted assassin" looks at a book with a picture of the man he tried to kill "it's a great concern."

"I had an involuntary response of goose bumps," said Clickner. The agent said he couldn't tell if Hinckley took an interest in any one particular book.

Levine asked how long Hinckley appeared to look at the history books and the agent estimated it lasted about 15 to 20 seconds. Levine questioned how Clickner could tell what Hinckley might have seen on a five-shelf book case and noted there were other volumes nearby on subjects like the 9/11 attacks and a conflict involving Mormon settlers and their neighbors in the 1800s.

A Barnes and Noble clerk also was called to the stand to talk about an episode in late summer or early fall of 2011 when a customer asked whether there were any new books on the Kennedy assassination.

The clerk, Richard Rolfes, said he pointed out the "Betrayal in Dallas" book. The clerk said the customer "didn't seem very excited" about being directed to the book. Rolfes said the man also asked about books on the topic of assassination in general, which Rolfes said he found unusual.

According to Rolfes, on December 5, a store manager mentioned hearing a news report saying John Hinckley shopped at their store and looked at books on presidential assassination. Rolfes, a recent college graduate, said the name was only vaguely familiar to him when he first heard it. He said he looked up Hinckley on the Wikipedia website and said he saw a picture of Hinckley and thought it was the same man he had waited on.

Rolfes was then interviewed by Secret Service agents who showed him more pictures of Hinckley.

Rolfes could not remember exactly what month or day he had assisted the customer or what he was wearing. Rolfes also changed his mind about whether the customer was wearing glasses.

Levine, the lawyer for Hinckley, called Rolfes' testimony "unreliable.

Late last year the subject of what Hinckley looked at in book stores also came up during the federal court hearing. In a surveillance report filed by the Secret Service on July 24, 2011, agents said they saw Hinckley looking at American history and crime books and the shelves contained "several books about President Reagan and his attempted assassination."

Hinckley currently spends 10 days a month visiting his elderly mother in Williamsburg. Doctors at St. Elizabeths, the government mental hospital where Hinckley has spent the past three decades, have asked that his visits be expanded. The first step calls for two visits of 17 days followed by six visits of 24 days. After that the hospital asked for the authority to decide whether the presidential assailant should be released as a permanent outpatient.

The government opposes the hospital's plan and is just beginning to present its case. Hinckley's lawyers maintain he is not dangerous and presented witnesses last year.

In December, U.S. District Court Judge Paul Friedman indicated the authority to decide whether Hinckley ultimately will be released should rest with him as judge, rather than the hospital.

Hinckley sat quietly listening to the court testimony Monday. He was wearing a brown sports coat without a tie. Hinckley usually wears a tie to court.

Levine made a point of explaining to the judge that the U.S. marshals who escort Hinckley from St. Elizabeths to the federal court house and sit with him during the testimony require him to leave his ties at the court. Levine said no one had been able to locate the ties before the hearing began. "No disrespect is meant for the court," said Levine.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/23/us/hinckley-hearing/index.html
" Closure? Closure is a misused word in the English language.  There is no such thing as closure for the family of a murder victim.  There will never be any closure for the death of our loved ones until we are dead ourselves.  The families have a lifetime sentence of anguish and sadness." 
Susan Levy

Grinning Grim Reaper

Judge grants John Hinckley Jr. his freedom decades after Reagan assassination attempt


The man who tried to kill President Ronald Reagan has been set free, after a judge decide to allow would-be assassin John Hinckley Jr. to live with his mother in Virginia full-time.

Hinckley is set to begin his "convalescent leave" on Aug. 5, according to U.S. District Judge Paul Friedman's order.

"I'm very glad this happened after Mrs. Reagan passed on," said Reagan's 1984 campaign manager Ed Rollins, referencing the death of Nancy Reagan in March. "It would have been a very disturbing thing for her."
 
Friedman wrote that "all of the experts and treatment providers" who testified during the hearing agreed that Hinckley's issues -- major depression and psychotic disorder -- were "in full and sustained remission and have been for more than twenty years."

"Mr. Hinckley is clinically ready for full-time convalescent leave," Friedman wrote.

The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute issued a statement disapproving of the judge's decision.
 
"Contrary to the judge's decision, we believe John Hinckley is still a threat to others and we strongly oppose his release," the statement said.

Hinckley, 61, attempted to kill Reagan outside of the Washington Hilton Hotel on March 30, 1981. He fired six shots, hitting four people, including Reagan, who was wounded when a bullet bounced off his presidential limo. Press Secretary James Brady was shot in the right side of his head, sustaining serious injuries. When he died in August 2014, Brady's death was ruled a homicide.

"I think any of us who were there on the day Reagan was shot, and Brady was permanently injured, will always have really serious reservations about letting this guy out without having some restraint on him," Rollins told FoxNews.com.

Hinckley was arrested at the scene and was later found not guilty by reason of mental insanity. Hinckley had allegedly tried to kill Reagan in order to gain the affection of Hollywood starlet Jodie Foster.

"My father did more than say the Lords Prayer He lived it in forgiving John Hinkley Jr...Maybe we should do the same," Mike Reagan, Ronald Reagan's son, tweeted.

Friedman ruled Wednesday that Hinckley will have to attend individual and group therapy sessions and is barred from talking to the media. He can drive, but there are restrictions on how far he can travel. The Secret Service will also periodically follows him.

"John Hinckley shouldn't have been released," GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump said during a Wednesday press conference.

Hinckley will be required return to Washington once a month for doctors to check on his mental state and his compliance with the conditions of his leave. He'll also be barred from trying to contact surviving victims and their families, along with Foster.

Hinckley's release from Washington's St. Elizabeth's hospital has been more than a decade in the making. In late 2003, the judge allowed Hinckley to begin leaving the hospital for day visits with his parents in the Washington area.

www.foxnews.com
Vengence is mine saith the Lord...who are we to question the instruments used to carry it out?

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