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The soldier killed in an attack in London has been named as Drummer Lee Rigby of the 2nd Battalion the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers.
Drummer Rigby, 25, from Manchester, leaves behind a two-year-old son.
Two suspects shot by police after Wednesday's attack in Woolwich remain under arrest. A further two people have been arrested on conspiracy to murder.
The suspects, one of whom is said to be Islamist protester Michael Adebolajo, were known to security services.
Scotland Yard said the latest arrests were of a man and woman, both aged 29.
Drummer Rigby's family issued a statement on Thursday, saying: "Lee was lovely. He would do anything for anybody, he always looked after his sisters and always protected them. He took a 'big brother' role with everyone.
"All he wanted to do from when he was a little boy, was be in the Army.
"He wanted to live life and enjoy himself. His family meant everything to him. He was a loving son, husband, father, brother, and uncle, and a friend to many."
'Popular and witty'
A post-mortem examination was being carried out on Thursday.
The Ministry of Defence also paid tribute to Drummer Rigby.
"An extremely popular and witty soldier, Drummer Rigby was a larger than life personality within the Corps of Drums and was well known, liked and respected across the Second Fusiliers.
"He was a passionate and life-long Manchester United fan."
Drummer Rigby, from Middleton, Greater Manchester, joined the Army in 2006. He was described as a "loving father to his son Jack" and someone who would be "sorely missed by all who knew him".
In other developments:
   The two suspects who were shot remain in separate London hospitals in stable conditions with non-life-threatening injuries
   Video footage, obtained by the Daily Mirror, has emerged of the moment the two men were shot by police
   Six residential addresses are being searched: three in south London, one in east London, one in north London and one in Lincoln
   Items were recovered from the Woolwich scene, police said
   An increased police presence will be in Woolwich and the surrounding areas through Thursday night and "as long as needed", Assistant Commissioner for Specialist Crime and Operations Mark Rowley said
   With dozens of witnesses to the killing, police are urging them to contact the Met's anti-terrorism hotline with information
   US President Barack Obama says his country "stands resolute with the United Kingdom, our ally and friend, against violent extremism and terror"
   Military charity Help for Heroes said since the attack people had been "spontaneously showing support for the armed forces"
   Two men have been charged with separate attacks on mosques, in Kent and Essex, after the death of the soldier
'Senseless murder'
Drummer Rigby had taken up a post with the Regimental Recruiting Team in London in 2011.
"An experienced and talented side drummer and machine gunner, he was a true warrior and served with distinction in Afghanistan, Germany and Cyprus," said his commanding officer Lt Col Jim Taylor.
"His ability, talent and personality made him a natural choice to work in the recruiting group."
Capt Alan Williamson said: "Drummer Rigby or 'Riggers' as he was known within the platoon was a cheeky and humorous man, always there with a joke to brighten the mood."
Defence Secretary Philip Hammond said: "This was a senseless murder of a soldier who has served the Army faithfully in a variety of roles including operational tours in Afghanistan.
"Our thoughts today are with his family and loved ones who are trying to come to terms with this terrible loss."
Mr Hammond was asked if the attack showed how vulnerable soldiers were, whether they were in uniform or not.
He replied: "I think it reminds us how vulnerable we all are, but it also reminds us, by the response of the public, that we are not going to be cowed by this kind of terrorist action."
Chief of Defence Staff General Sir David Richards said: "It's always a tragedy, it's particularly poignant that it happened on the streets of this capital city of ours.
"We're absolutely determined not to be intimidated into not doing the right thing - whether it's here in this country or in Afghanistan or wherever we seek to serve the nation."
Security at Woolwich Barracks and others in London has been increased, and Gen Richards said: "I'm confident that base security is as tight as it's ever been, and necessarily so.
"It's a very difficult balancing act. We are very proud of the uniform we wear, we have huge support around the country, this is a completely isolated incident."
Shortly after the killing, a man, thought to be 28-year-old Mr Adebolajo, was filmed by a passer-by, saying he carried out the attack because British soldiers killed Muslims every day.
Sources said reports the men had featured in "several investigations" in recent years - but were not deemed to be planning an attack - "were not inaccurate".
According to BBC sources, Mr Adebolajo, a Briton of Nigerian descent, comes from a devout Christian family but took up Islam after leaving college in 2001.
The BBC has uncovered its own footage of one of him taking part in an Islamist demonstration in April 2007 against the arrest of a man from Luton.
Mr Adebolajo can be seen standing in a crowd of men outside Paddington Green police station, holding a placard reading "Crusade Against Muslims".
He is standing next to Anjem Choudary, who was the leader of al-Muhajiroun, a now-banned organisation.
Mr Choudary said Mr Adebolajo was previously associated with the group, but went his own way in around 2010.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission sent 12 investigators to look at the scene.
They reviewed CCTV footage from a local authority camera, and said two officers fired shots and one officer discharged a Taser.
One of the shot men received first aid from the firearms officers.
"At this stage we are not pursuing any criminal or misconduct offences," said Commissioner Derrick Campbell.

I think almost the entire nation has been stunned by this sickening attack.  R.I.P. Drummer Rigby.  :'(
Off Topic - Anything / Alternative Therapies
July 14, 2012, 12:34:40 PM
I would really like to give up smoking, I have tried all the regular methods such as patches and gum without success and was wondering if anyone had any experience of alternative therapies.  I have seen adverts for Hypnotherapy and Acupuncture that claim they will help you quit smoking and was wondering what peoples views were and if anyone had any information as to whether they really work.
Off Topic - Anything / Quick Quiz
June 29, 2012, 12:16:37 PM
1.   Johnny's mother had three children. The first child was named April.
The   second child was named May. What was the third child's name?

2. There   is a clerk at the butcher shop, he is five feet ten inches tall and
he   wears size 13 sneakers. What does he weigh?

3.. Before Mt. Everest was   discovered,
what was the highest mountain in the world?

4. How much   dirt is there in a hole that measures
two feet by three feet by four   feet?

5. What word in the English Language is
always spelled   incorrectly?

6. Billy was born on December 28th, yet his
birthday is   always in the summer. How is this possible?

7. In California , you   cannot take a picture of a man with
a wooden leg. Why not?

8. What   was the President's name in 1975?

9. If you were running a race, and   you passed the person
in 2nd place, what place would you be in   now?

10. Which is correct to say, "The yolk of the egg are white"
or   "The yolk of the egg is white"?

11. If a farmer has 5 haystacks in one   field and 4 haystacks in the other field,
how many haystacks would he have   if he combined them all in another field?

Answers tommorrow, if you really need them.

Dying Rhys cradled by his mother
The mother of 11-year-old Rhys Jones cradled her dying son in her arms after he was gunned down in a pub car park, a family friend said.
Tony Edge said Rhys mother Melanie held her son as they waited for an ambulance after he was shot in the neck as he played football with friends outside Fir Tree pub in Croxteth, Liverpool, on Wednesday night.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown described the killing as a "heinous crime that shocked the whole of the country", and extended his sympathy to Rhys family.
Speaking at Downing Street following a pre-planned summit on youth disorder and gangs, Mr Brown said: "The people responsible will be tracked down, arrested and punished."
Mr Edge, 40, a children's football coach, told how he broke the devastating news of the shooting to Rhys mother and then drove her to the "horrific" scene of the shooting.
The Liverpool City Council worker said: "Melanie grabbed her keys and came in the car with me and we raced to the car park. She went to him, knelt down, held him and spoke to him.
""Rhys' mum was with him and they waited for the ambulance - it seemed to take forever to turn up. I don't know what she was saying to him because I walked away from it."
Mr Edge said there was an issue between two gangs in Croxteth but he claimed Rhys had absolutely nothing to do with them.
He said: "You can't mention Rhys in the same breath as gang culture.
"And Rhys and his friends even stayed away from local teenagers because they scared them. He has been in the wrong place at the wrong time

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