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I've got mixed feelings about this, on the one hand I think 'hurry up and give him what he wants' on the other hand I can't help thinking he's planting evidence for an insanity appeal some time in the future.
I wonder if he has a penpal wife from PTO.

Another the bitter end, claimed innocence...not so much...

DNA Testing Proves Executed Va. Prisoner's Guilt
Published January 13, 2006  Associated Press
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Death penalty opponents said new DNA tests confirming the guilt of a murderer who was put to death in Virginia while still proclaiming his innocence will do nothing to end their fight to abolish capital punishment.

The test results, announced Thursday by Gov. Mark R. Warner, prove Roger Keith Coleman was guilty of the 1981 rape and murder of his sister-in-law, putting an end to a debate over his guilt that has raged since he was executed in 1992.

Death penalty opponents have argued for years that the risk of a grave and irreversible mistake by the criminal justice system is too great to allow capital punishment. A finding of innocence in the Coleman case would have been explosive news and almost certainly would have had a powerful effect on the public's attitude toward the death penalty. But despite the finding of guilt, death penalty opponents insist the results do not mean capital punishment is infallible.

"Obviously, one case does not in any way reflect on the correctness of the other 1,000 executions we've had in the last 30 years," said Peter Neufeld, co-founder of the Innocence Project. "Other governors should take their lead from Governor Warner and do post-execution testing in their cases, because ... there's no reason not to -- it's all about getting to the truth."

Coleman was convicted and sentenced to death in 1982 for the gruesome murder of 19-year-old Wanda McCoy, who was found raped, stabbed and nearly beheaded in her home in the coal mining town of Grundy.

The report from the Centre of Forensic Sciences in Toronto concluded there was almost no conceivable doubt that Coleman was the source of the sperm found in the victim.

"The probability that a randomly selected individual unrelated to Roger Coleman would coincidentally share the observed DNA profile is estimated to be 1 in 19 million," the report said.

A former prosecutor in the case said the results, while not surprising, were a relief.

"Quite frankly, I feel like the weight of the world has been lifted off of my shoulders," Grundy attorney Tom Scott said. "You can imagine, had it turned out differently, (the other prosecutor) and I certainly would have been scapegoats."

Initial DNA and blood tests in 1990 placed Coleman within the 0.2 percent of the population who could have produced the semen at the crime scene. But his lawyers said the expert they hired to conduct those initial DNA tests misinterpreted the results.

The governor agreed to a new round of more sophisticated DNA tests in one of his last official acts. Warner, who has been mentioned as a possible Democratic candidate for president in 2008, leaves office on Saturday.

Coleman's case drew international attention as the well-spoken inmate pleaded his case on talk shows and in magazines and newspapers. Time magazine featured the coal miner on its cover. Pope John Paul II tried to block the execution. Then-Gov. L. Douglas Wilder's office was flooded with thousands of calls and letters of protest from around the world.

Coleman's attorneys argued that he did not have time to commit the crime, that tests showed semen from two men was found inside McCoy and that another man bragged about murdering her.

"An innocent man is going to be murdered tonight," the 33-year-old said moments before he was electrocuted. "When my innocence is proven, I hope America will realize the injustice of the death penalty as all other civilized countries have."

One criminal law expert said the results in the Coleman case should have little impact on the nation's death penalty debate.

"I don't know that the particular result here really matters," said University of Virginia criminal law professor Richard Bonnie. "Of course there's going to be cases in which people have claimed to be innocent and that DNA testing ... will tend to disprove that -- that should be expected. But I think we also know that there are going to be cases where the claim of innocence is supported."

Whatever the potential outcome, making DNA testing readily available to all death row inmates should be of vital concern, said Earl Washington Jr., who came within nine days of being executed before being pardoned in 2000 thanks to DNA testing.

"DNA works two different ways -- find you guilty, find you innocent. Today, the DNA on Roger Coleman found him guilty," said Washington, who befriended Coleman while they were on death row together. "I would rather see everyone on death row do DNA (testing) if possible. One day they might end up executing an innocent person."

Death penalty proponents welcomed the results. "Stop the presses -- it turns out that rapists and killers are also liars," Michael Paranzino, president of a group called Throw Away the Key, said in a statement.

Four newspapers and Centurion Ministries, a New Jersey organization that investigated Coleman's case and became convinced of his innocence, sought a court order to have the evidence retested. The Virginia Supreme Court declined to order the testing in 2002, so Centurion Ministries asked Warner to intervene.

James McCloskey, executive director of Centurion Ministries, had been fighting to prove Coleman's innocence since 1988. The two shared Coleman's final meal together -- cold slices of pizza -- just a few hours before Coleman was executed.

"I had always believed in Roger's complete innocence. In my view, he had no motive, means, or opportunity to do this crime. I now know that I was wrong. Indeed, this is a bitter pill to swallow," said McCloskey, adding he felt betrayed by Coleman. "Even though the results are far different than I expected, and even though this particular truth feels like a kick in the stomach, I do not regret that this effort has at last brought finality to all who have had an interest in this matter."

This is the one the anti's always like to forget.

You can be pretty sure this one will be stayed as well. It's Pennsylvania, after all.

Wow. I find it interesting that the secretary of the Department of Corrections can go over his boss's head and issue an execution warrant.  Governor Wolf issued a moratorium on the death penalty back in February. I understood under Pennsylvania's constitution and laws, the governor has sole authority in the issuance of reprieves, commutations, and so forth. 

Since the secretary is appointed by the governor and serves at his pleasure, I wonder how long the secretary will still have a job?  Even though the law allows the secretary to issue an execution warrant in the event that the governor fails to do so.

Governor Wolfe is probably sitting back comfortably in the knowledge that this setting the date is just going through the motions and it will inevitably be stayed.  I wonder what he would do in the unlikely event that someone actually got a serious date.
How much more expensive is it to keep an inmate on Death Row, compared to keeping them in maximum security conditions with LWOP?
It ain't rocket science scumbag, if you don't want to go back to prison don't break the law.
Given the of stays going round at the moment, this must have been one unlucky guy to be executed.
Charles Manson / Re: Manson Married..
January 08, 2015, 02:52:46 PM

Is it just me, or does Manson's new bride look really uneasy/uncomfortable in the first pic in this article?  I'm thinking that perhaps they should be granted one short conjugal visit..  ???

She's obviously a raving lunatic  IMO. 

I'm also p*ssed that he seems to be able to get stuff out to her to sell.  I know he can't get any proceeds - but I would've thought maybe all proceeds would be seized rather than available to her or his son??

Hi by the way - sorry I haven't been around much!

No wonder she is uneasy, she has just broken the heart of several hundred scumpals.
This is just one of many reasons why I believe Great Britain should, and one day will leave the EU.  Sadly, even if that day ever arrives I don't believe our 'out of touch' politicians will restore the Death Penalty.

Soffar has not once accepted responsibility for murdering 3 people.  In fact, he convinced the justice system to order a new trial and has bitched ever since that he was wrongly convicted a second time and re-sentenced to death. 

No responsibility; no remorse, no compassionate release.  All he deserves is to have his pain managed like we would do for anyone. 


Ironic isn't it, it may come to the point where he is praying for a lethal injection.
Sudan death sentence woman 'freed'

Meriam Ibrahim gave birth to a baby daughter in prison
A Sudanese woman sentenced to death for abandoning her Islamic faith has been freed from jail, her lawyer has told the BBC.
Meriam Ibrahim's death penalty was overturned by an appeal court, the official Suna news agency reported.
She is married to a Christian man and was sentenced under Sharia law to hang for apostasy in May after refusing to renounce Christianity.
Her husband, Daniel Wani, said he was looking forward to seeing her.
He wanted his family to leave Sudan as soon possible, Mr Wani, who is a US citizen, told the BBC Focus on Africa radio programme.
Daniel Wani visited his children at the prison near Khartoum
The couple got married in a church after meeting in 2011
The death sentence for Meriam Yahia Ibrahim Ishag, who gave birth to a daughter in prison not long after she was convicted, sparked international outrage.
"We are very very happy about this - and we're going to her now," Mrs Ibrahim's lawyer Elshareef Ali told the BBC.
"They have released her... she's on her way to home," he said.
Mr Ali said Mrs Ibrahim had shown "extraordinary courage" during her ordeal.
"It's a victory for freedom of religion in Sudan... By Mariam's strong position, we believe that in the future no-one will be subjected to such a trial," he said.
The outcry generated by Meriam Ibrahim's case was difficult for the authorities to ignore.
The government in Khartoum is already dealing with an economic crisis, and conflicts in Darfur, South Kordofan and Blue Nile. It simply does not need further ill-feeling - and it is worth pointing out that many of the most vocal opponents of the conviction were Sudanese, not foreigners.
In fact, Mrs Ibrahim's case looks like part of a recurring theme.
In 2009 Lubna Hussein, dubbed the "trouser woman", was arrested for wearing "indecent clothing" in public - in her case a pair of loose green trousers. She was at risk of a public flogging. Eventually she was given a small fine, which was then paid on her behalf to set her free. In 2012, Intisar Sharif Abdullah was sentenced to death by stoning for adultery, before she too was released without charge.
In every case, the authorities insist the justice system came to an independent decision, but many believe it bowed to public pressure.
Born to a Muslim father, Mrs Ibrahim, 27, married Mr Wani, a Christian, in 2011.
She has been in jail since February, along with her young son.
Mr Ali said he had not yet seen the appeal court's judgement, and had learned about the verdict through the media.
Sudan has a majority Muslim population. Islamic law has been in force there since the 1980s.
Even though Mrs Ibrahim was brought up as an Orthodox Christian, the authorities consider her to be a Muslim.
Her husband, who was born in South Sudan before it became independent from Sudan, went to the US in 1998 at the height of the civil war.
He met Mrs Ibrahim in 2011 on a visit to Sudan and they were married at the main church in Khartoum.
I'd be interested to see what the courts say if and when this ever comes to be used.  I can see it being challenged on the usual 'cruel and unusual punishment' argument just like it was in Nebraska.

Two torture killers to remain on Death Row for Santa Clara County crime

Two condemned Santa Clara County killers should remain on California's death row for the 1991 torture and murder of a 73-year-old San Jose woman, the California Supreme Court ruled on Monday.

In a unanimous decision, the Supreme Court rejected a bid by convicted murderers Stephen Hajeck and Loi Tan Vo to overturn their nearly two-decade-old death sentences. The court did set aside a special circumstance finding of committing the murder by lying in wait, but left intact other convictions, including torture, that kept them eligible for the death penalty.

A jury in 1995 convicted the two men of tricking their way into a home and killing Su Chieh Hung, who was vacationing from Taiwan and staying with her daughter. Hajeck and Vo killed the woman by garroting her with a rope and slashing her throat.

At trial, prosecutors alleged that the two men entered the home looking for Hung's 16-year-old granddaughter because they were seeking revenge over an argument earlier that week at a San Jose ice cream shop. Hajeck and Vo were in their early 20s when they were sentenced to death.

During the crime, the two men tied up Hung's 10-year-old granddaughter, and later kidnapped other family members who arrived at the home as the events unfolded. The state Supreme Court concluded there was substantial evidence to uphold the convictions.

Defense lawyers during trial maintained that Hajeck was mentally ill at the time of the crimes, but the Supreme Court rejected that argument. Vo's lawyer told the jury at trial that he was simply helping Hajeck and had no inkling of his plans to attack family members.

Hajeck and Vo are still a long way from a firm execution date. Both men have remaining appeals in the state Supreme Court if they can introduce any new evidence and then have appeals in the federal courts, a process that ordinarily takes another decade or longer.

Twenty years on DR and they haven't even got to the 9th circus, this is just ridiculous.

I thought they had done the DNA testing and that it had come back as inconclusive.  Can't they see that is just BS delaying tactics?  How many more DNA tests do they want to do?

Considering a life is on the line, I imagine  as many as required?

You're not getting the point I was trying to make, either they want to do the tests again and I don't see the point in that.  Or they want to do different tests, in which case why didn't they do them the last time.
I thought they had done the DNA testing and that it had come back as inconclusive.  Can't they see that is just BS delaying tactics?  How many more DNA tests do they want to do?